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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:48 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote


1 JOHN is a good read

Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. 1 Peter 1:23

As we carefully read through 1 John, we notice a five-fold argument for the assurance of salvation, birthmarks of the Christian.


The first is the birthmark of confession, described in 1 John 5:1: “Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.” Before you can have assurance of salvation, you have to believe and be saved. You have to confess Jesus Christ as Lord. Some people assume they are saved because they grew up in a Christian culture, or they have gone to church all their lives, or they have been baptized, or they have tried to live a good life. Yet they’ve never distinctly and personally confessed Jesus Christ as their Savior and Lord.

The Bible teaches that we are sinners, separated from God by a sinful nature. We can never earn, buy, or climb our way into heaven. By our own efforts or goodness, we can never be saved. That’s why God became a man who lived a wholly righteous life, died on the cross, shed His blood for us, and rose from the dead. He paid our penalty, took our judgment upon Himself, and He offers us the opportunity to be born again.


If the first birthmark is our confession of Christ as our Savior and Lord, the second is a changed life, as we see in 1 John 2:29: “If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.” When Jesus truly saves us, it makes a difference in how we think, act, speak, and conduct ourselves. The Bible says, “Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.” (2 Corinthians 5:17).

As we begin learning to practice righteousness, our habits change. We will not be sinlessly perfect while we’re on this planet; but if we’re Christians, we need to behave like Christians. If we say we’re saved but nothing has changed about us, something is wrong. We are not saved by good works, but we are saved for good works, and the Gospel is a transforming agent in our lives.

COMPASSION  (Hating sin is still compassion)

Those who are truly saved also bear the birthmark of compassion. How can you know that you are a Christian? By what you believe, by how you live, and by whom you love. Love is a recurring theme in 1 John, and the apostle leaves no doubt about how it permeates the lives of true Christians. “Beloved,” he wrote, “let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.. . . . We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.” (1 John 4:7; 3:14).

Do you love your brothers and sisters in the family of God? Those who are truly saved are those who enjoy and bless the household of faith, the family of God.


A fourth sign of being truly saved is conflict. According to 1 John 5:4, “For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.” The word overcome implies a struggle. We’re faced with an adversary whom we must overcome. Our adversary is identified in 1 John 2:14 as the wicked one: “I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one.” John went on in the next verses to say: “Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.” (1 John 2:15-17).

When you’re genuinely born of God, you’ll be growing to be an overcomer as you deal with the temptations around you—the world, the flesh, and the devil. You may not be victorious over every temptation every time, but you’ll make progress in gaining more victories and losing less battles as you grow stronger in Christ and in the power of the abiding Word of God.


That leads to the final point I want to make: We can see evidence for the validity of salvation in our desire to conduct ourselves in a way that pleases God. According to 1 John 3:9, “Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.”

If we’re not careful, we might interpret this verse to teach that anyone who is born of God never sins. That would conflict with other passages in the Bible that describe us as fallible and often failing.

In 1 John 3:9, the word for sin is a present active infinitive and it describes a continuous action. John is not saying that whoever sins once is not born of God. That would disqualify all of us. It would certainly disqualify me. But John is saying, in effect, “Whoever keeps on willfully sinning, violating God’s law with stubborn disregard and ongoing wickedness, cannot have assurance of salvation.”

If we are truly saved, we will grieve over our sins, confess them, and seek God’s grace to do better.

His grace is inexhaustible and His salvation is irreversible. Make sure you have confessed Jesus as your Lord and Savior, and then trust Him with your eternal future. He will never leave you or forsake you. His Word was given that you might know Jesus Christ as your Savior and that you might know that you have eternal life.

You can have assurance of salvation today. source

BELIEF  *  Beware, there are many sincere beliefs that lead to hell

We will add a #6 to this excellent list in that a born-again believer can know they are saved because they believe God’s word in the Bible. Unsaved people cannot believe God’s word and have it functioning in their lives because God says that it only works in them that believe. “For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.” 1 Thessalonians 2:13.

Unsaved people will often quote from the Bible for social, political or financial gain, but if someone is not a born again believer it will have no effect in their lives. There’s no repentance, no testimony of a “new life”, no victory over sin or even acknowledgement of the sin in their lives. Belief in what God has written is key, as Paul says in Romans 10:9 – “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”

When I got saved, God’s word went from a dusty book I almost never read to a treasure trove that continues to delight my soul 25 years after I first became born again. If you believe the Bible when you read it – didn’t say understand it all, I said believe – then that is a rock-solid sign that you have become born again.

Ten Questions Christians Are Asking
Pastors David Jeremiah and Edwin Lutzer both have good books on this
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Things Christians Should Stop Doing on Social Media
(I do not fully agree with him, if they dont repent - call them out - publicly!)

STOP  Publicly calling people out on their sins or mistakes.
Its not your place to call other people out on their sins or mistakes, especially in public.
Christians already have a bad reputation in the land of judgment, and
the last thing we need is someone rebuking people via Twitter or Facebook.

If you really think its important, call them on the phone, or at least send them a private message.
Do us all a favor and stop your social judgment. There is no need to
publicly shame someone for something you’re probably doing yourself.

STOP   Trying to explain theological doctrine in 140 characters or less.
Theology is a subject that was never meant to be paraphrased, half-hearted, or partially explained. Take the time to write a blog post or even make a podcast.
Dont try and manipulate Biblical doctrine to fit in the form of 140 characters or less.
God’s word deserves to be drawn out, elaborated, and explained in a plethora of words.
Nuggets of partial truth will never be more fulfilling than a plate filled with the whole meal.

STOP  Getting into arguments on Facebook or Twitter.
Nobody wants to see your drama show up on their news feeds.
Maturity plays a big role in using social media. So if you claim to be a Christian,
then please keep your drama, arguments, and bickering to yourself.
The last thing someone wants to see a Christian do is argue behind the safety
of a computer screen. It’s not worth your time, nor does anyone else want to see it.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Loneliness of the Christian
by A. W. Tozer

The loneliness of the Christian results from his walk with God in an ungodly world, a walk that must often take him away from the fellowship of good Christians as well as from that of the unregenerate world. His God-given instincts cry out for companionship with others of his kind, others who can understand his longings, his aspirations, his absorption in the love of Christ; and because within his circle of friends there are so few who share his inner experiences he is forced to walk alone.

The unsatisfied longings of the prophets for human understanding caused them to cry out in their complaint, and even our Lord Himself suffered in the same way.

The man [or woman] who has passed on into the divine Presence in actual inner experience will not find many who understand him. He finds few who care to talk about that which is the supreme object of his interest, so he is often silent and preoccupied in the midst of noisy religious shoptalk. For this he earns the reputation of being dull and over-serious, so he is avoided and the gulf between him and society widens.

He searches for friends upon whose garments he can detect the smell of myrrh and aloes and cassia out of the ivory palaces, and finding few or none he, like Mary of old, keeps these things in his heart.

It is this very loneliness that throws him back upon God. His inability to find human companionship drives him to seek in God what he can find nowhere else."

From Man - The Dwelling Place of God
Chapter 39:  "The Saint Must Walk Alone"

lionspaw wrote:
The "Church" leaders had the Light in front of them, in direct contact with them, and they heard Him regularly teach, and yet Peter tells us they REJECTED Him in every way and had Him killed.

I often marvel at these Scriptures:
1 Peter 2:4-7 (New King James Version)
The Chosen Stone and His Chosen People
4 Coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious, 5 you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6 Therefore it is also contained in the Scripture,

     “ Behold, I lay in Zion
     A chief cornerstone, elect, precious,
     And he who believes on Him will by no means be put to shame.”[a]

7 Therefore, to you who believe, He is precious; but to those who are disobedient,[b]

     “ The stone which the builders rejected
     Has become the chief cornerstone,”[c]

The issue is one of faith, and a touching of the heart by the Holy Spirit.  They had every chance to believe, but because of TRADITION amd FEAR they chose not to believe.   I stand amazed.  How could they miss it?  How can we miss it now?

mayito7777 wrote:
it is very sad to see how other people who called themselve "Christians' are walking so far away from God and dare to blame you for been so narrow minded, they take the Word of God and twist it and change it to serve their own personal agendas. I am so sick and tired of dealing with them, they are so blind that refused to accept the light as a false hope.
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Shocked    1 in 4 Believers Are 'Christians in Name Only (NOT saved from hell)
Changing the Face of Christianity Inc., a non-profit corporation dedicated to reversing negative Christian stereotypes, has released the results of a quiz designed to determine how well Christians live the teachings of Jesus Christ. Through the quiz, the organization found that one in four self-proclaimed Christians admit that they do not live according to Christ's teachings.

The anonymous assessment consisted of 10 multiple choice questions that returned a score to the participant at the end, which then indicated to that participant if he was 'Far from Christ," a "Worldly Christian," "A Good Christian," or a "Spiritually Mature Christian," which was the highest rank possible.

The responses, which were collected over a seven-month period from January 2011 to July 2011, indicated that 23.7 percent of Christians in the pool of over 2,000 questioned were classified as "Worldly Christians" or Christians in name only, as defined by R. Brad White, the founder of Changing the Face of Christianity Inc.

"When posed with a real world situation which tests their faith, they tend to do what the rest of the world does, instead of living as Jesus instructs," White said about "Worldly Christians."

"To be clear, these aren't 'bad' people. The score results suggest they think much more about themselves than they think about God and other people. Reading the Bible and praying aren't a common practice. These are people that you would probably be surprised to find are Christian, if it weren't for the cross around their neck. These people are in the sweet spot of where we need to do our work. We are here to walk along side them, love them, educate them, mentor them, and guide them into living their faith through their words and actions."

White said this is the group his organization is particularly eager to
help to put them back on the path to righteousness.

"We are currently piloting a revolutionary way of 'doing' Christian small groups, that helps Christians live their faith; a sign of Christian maturity," he said. "Instead of just doing Bible study after Bible study, our small groups platform gets people studying, serving, praying, praising, and enjoying their lives together."


Kids in Christian Classes Coming Out Less Christian
A two-year study of graduates from Catholic, Protestant and home schools found the choice of private education, when compared to public education, had significant effects on the students' academics, civics and faith – but not necessarily the effects one might expect. For example, the study found, the adjusted net effect on students of private, Catholic schooling versus public schooling was to produce graduates even less likely to believe in moral absolutes, to respect the authority of the Catholic Church, to believe in the infallibily of Scripture or to condemn premarital sex. The study also discovered, for example, that "the stereotypical picture of the highly political right-wing Protestant Christian is false," finding that graduates of Christian schools are less engaged in politics than their peers, as measured by talking less about politics, participating less in campaigns and donating less to political causes.

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Christianity is thriving in China
Christianity is thriving in China. Even though sharing the gospel is illegal in the communist country, that hasn't stopped Christians from boldly proclaiming their faith.

CBN News recently joined one Chinese couple who are traveling the vast countryside to share the good news about Jesus Christ with their countrymen.

Duan Huilai said the images captured on his home video camera are proof that God is moving in China.

"This is the first time you are seeing pictures of Christians from the villages openly praising God," Huilai told CBN News.

Huilai, a Chinese evangelist, gave CBN News exclusive access to hours of video and pictures taken in dozens of locations across China.

The pictures show one thing in common: men and women of all ages being touched by the power of God.

"Everywhere I go, I meet people who are hungry for God and He is showing up," Huilai said.

Rural Life Challenging

Huilai and his wife are full-time evangelists. Since 2003, they've criss-crossed the Chinese countryside sharing the gospel.

"God called us to focus on the rural areas where life is often very difficult," Lin Aimin, Huilai's wife, said.

Difficult, yet simple in many ways. Huilai showed CBN News pictures of how people have been baptized in rural areas after they've accepted Christ into their lives.

"Sometimes I baptize them in a river," he explained. "Sometimes they are baptized in the back of a pickup truck. A couple of times I've conducted baptisms in the shower. Very often we just have to improvise."

Preaching Still Illegal

Sharing the gospel in China is still forbidden.

"I was arrested here a number of times," Huilai told CBN News as he pointed to a map of China.

Christian gatherings not sanctioned by the government are considered illegal.

"The government doesn't allow people who live in one city to travel to another city. We are mindful of the regulations," Huilai said.

Despite the government restrictions, China watchers say what's happening spiritually in the country is nothing short of remarkable.

"There are still masses of converts everyday in the countryside. It is very encouraging," said Peter, a man who has worked with China's so-called underground or house churches for decades. CBN News agreed to conceal Peter's identity to protect him.

"So many peasants in so many places are coming to Christ in large numbers," the man said, speaking from an undisclosed location.

"And the churches in many cases are maturing and getting beyond simple evangelism and reaching out to rural minority groups and unreached people groups," he said.

Persecution purifies the Church
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Before I was a Christian

At the age of 14 I was living with my dad in a little one-bedroom house. More or less it was a shack. My parents were separated. At the time my dad and I were living off a hundred dollars a week. Not much, but we made it. Both my parents really loved me, but it was many, many years later before I understood that. I had already chosen the wide path that leads to destruction. I was mad at my mom because she had kicked me out of her house . My favorite saying was "who cares." In my eyes it seemed like nobody cared. I was depressed most of the time, and hated being sober. So I would do whatever I could to keep away from reality, and get away from the feelings of hurt, fear, and rejection. As time went on I grew harder and harder. Life was rough, but I got by. One thing I will always remember was the bit of scripture my dad had taped to the cabinet over our table. It read, "For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?" Somehow that scripture always stuck with me, and I knew all would be for nothing if I lost my own soul. I figured that since I believed that Jesus Christ died on the cross for my sins I was okay, and I put off getting serious with God. I decided I would deal with Him when I got everything else straightened out in my life. If I had only known that He was the only one that could straighten it out.

Mushrooms and acid (LSD) had become my drugs of choice, but I had my share of cocaine, marijuana, speed, ecstasy, and if there was a pill that would make me high I took that too. I could tell you all kinds of stories about all that, but this is the story of the most important things that ever happened to me.

When I was 23 and working for a huge company as a department manager. I had just gotten back from College Station where a group of us were up there helping another store out with inventory. I went out that same night to shoot some pool. I had a few beers, and then decided I wanted something else. So I went over to a friend's house and bought a few hits of acid, ate those and went home. I laid down and spent the next five or six hours reading book written by Hermann Hesse called "Demian." I don't recommend it. After reading this book I was terribly frightened. I had a vision of myself going to war, like at the end of the world or something like that, but I was on the side that was fighting against God, and all I had were a few rocks. I thought to myself, "what could I possibly do against God with a few rocks?" I realized I was fighting on the wrong side and it was not going to go well for me, at all. I had no idea of what to do. Panic and fear gripped me. I felt as though demons were trying to take hold of me to drag me to hell. I was fighting just to stay conscience. I feared that if I let go; I would go insane.

I tried to read the bible, but that seemed to intensify my fears. I searched through some tapes of sermons my mom had sent me.
I found one that sounded like what I needed. It was titled "What Happens when you quit Running Away From God?"
I put it in my stereo and listened. This gave me a little comfort.

I finally saw who I was in the light of who He is...

It was there, laying on the floor that I found the reason for living. There on the floor as I listened to that man preach, I began to see how desperately wicked I was, that my entire existence thus far was an abomination in the light of the Author of all creation. It was there on the floor that the grim truth was revealed to me. All the motives, intents, and desires of my heart were exposed before the Living God, the very nature of my being was spread out visible to the eyes of whom I must give account. I saw that I deserved the full sentence for my sins; that I had in full measure transgressed the Law of God. I realized that the only just punishment for my sin was to spend eternity damned, separated from God, in the scorching pits of fire and brimstone, where the closest thing to comfort is the waling and gnashing of teeth. I saw that this was the only way that justice could be fulfilled for my rebellion against God Almighty, for denying Him love and obedience, and declaring my independence from Him.

As I lay there on the floor it only seemed just and fair that I should go to hell. Oh, how I had grieved the Lord with my wayward living, with my lawlessness, treating Him as though he were part of some fairytale, living as though He were not real, and making myself out to be His enemy. I had loved the sins, which He so much hated. He had reached out to me so many times. He sent people to testify of His love for me, to bring me in as one of His own, but I had wanted nothing to do with Him. Instead I wanted to have my fill of eating and drinking and worldly pleasures. I wanted to do what I wanted to do and was not going to be dictated by God's law. I had found no place for God in my heart.

I laid there on the floor with the heavy pressure of God's judgement on my heart, facing the pits of hell. Oh, how I did not want to go! If only there was another way, if only there was something I could do, but there was nothing. It was inevitable, I was doomed this time I had gone too far. He was not going to let me go this time like times before. When I had told him I would never do it again. So many times I had found myself in a hopeless situation and cried out to God for help saying, "I'll stop, I'll never do it again just please help my this once." And he always helped me, but I never stopped I just kept on sinning. Then the wretched, blind, and naked soul that I was began to weep and sob. God knew all of my secret hidden thoughts, intents, and desires. Nothing was hidden from him. Oh, how ashamed I was! All I wanted to know was how to be saved from this miserable end.

The pastor on the tape was talking about repenting from sin and giving it up. I pleaded with God, "Oh, if I had only known the severity of the consequences of what I was doing," but I had known and I had still chosen the wide path that leads to destruction. God wanted me to give up my sin, but I loved my sin. The thought of me giving up all the things I had loved to do, the music, the drugs, the drinking, the smoking, the fornication, seemed impossible. It was my life. I knew no other way. It was time to give it up or suffer the consequences. God was not going to allow me to go on sinning like that any more. I chose to repent. I told Him, "You are Lord and I'll give it all up and do what ever you want me to," then I asked him to forgive me for all my evil ways.

Grace Grace Grace...

Then as I lay there on the floor still sobbing, I began to see the beauty and perfection of God's awesome Love for me. Light began to pierce the darkness of my heart, and a warm flood of emotions seized my body. The weight of conviction began to lift. It was there on the floor, tears streaming down my eyes that I saw the true reason for God sending his son into this world. It was for terrible, rotten, no good sinners like me. Jesus was beat, whipped, mocked, and spit upon. People laughed at him, pulled out his beard, impaled a crown of thorns on his head, and nailed him to a cross where his blood flowed freely. They crucified him even though he was innocent and He endured it all for the sake of sinners like me. That through his death I might gain the gift of life, he had paid the price for my sin and bore my iniquity on the cross at Calvary. He loved me that much. As this realization of this hit me I began to laugh with tears of joy. There was nothing I could have done to save myself from hell, but God had done something already. I realized it wasn't just believing about Him, but knowing Him and surrendering to his authority in submission. I finally really understood the old hymn, "Amazing Grace How Sweet the Sound That Saved a Wretch Like Me, I Once Was Lost but Now I'm Found ‘Twas Blind but Now I See."

So now I ask you - where are you with God? Do you know Jesus? He said, "Not every one that says ‘Lord, Lord,' will enter the Kingdom of heaven, but he that does the will of My Father. Many will say in that day, ‘Did we not do all these wonderful things in Your name?' But He will say, ‘Depart from me you workers of iniquity I never knew you.'" We are told in the Bible that "He who says, he knows God, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him." We are also told, "Love not the world nor the things that are in the world, if any man love the things of the world, the love of the Father is not in him." Jesus has called us to give up our worldly lives and serve Him. Anything that you find more important than Jesus is an idol. Think about it. Is there anything that you wouldn't give up for Jesus? What about your house, your job, your car, friends, clothes, television, music, anything that you are not willing to give up is an idol, and you are not worthy to follow Him, until you lay it at His feet in submission. Our God is a jealous God, and will have no other gods before Him. A man cannot have two masters, either he will love one or hate the other. A friend of the world is an enemy of God. Jesus said, "He who saves his life will lose it, but he who loses his life for My sake shall save it."

We were bought with a price, we are not our own. God paid for us with the precious blood of his Son Jesus Christ. You are in complete rebellion against God until you quit playing god with your own life and put it back into the hands of Jesus to whom it belongs. As long as you keep rebelling against Jesus you are denying him the Glory, love and obedience he deserves. God hates sin, and all of your sin will be exposed before the light and be judged, unless you repent. For the wages of sin is death. Jesus said, "wide is the path that leads to destruction and many there be that follow it, but narrow is the way that leads to life and few there be that find it." Jesus is the Life, and the only way to Jesus is to repent from your sin, give it up, and let it go for good. Be obedient and do whatever Jesus tells you to. Jesus died for you, that you may have life eternal.

Revelation 21:8 reads:
"but the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murders, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars shall have there part in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone."

So what are you going to say on Judgement Day? What excuse will you give for your sin? I tell you, you will have no excuse for you have been warned.
It is time that you make a decision: are you going to serve the world and Satan, or Jesus and the Kingdom of God?

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Greece Financial Crisis Opens Door for Gospel
PRAY for Greece and Christian ministries there.
The Greek government fell into chaos when Greece prime minister called for a referendum on a new debt deal.
There was a new agreement that updates the previous agreement that was approved, so that has to be approved by the Greek Parliament again.
Eurozone leaders agreed on a second financial rescue for Greece in return for more unpopular austerity.

The angry Greeks are unlikely to like this, so the PM wants a vote in January.
However, the revolt came from Greek lawmakers who planned a no-confidence vote.
There is a possibility of a government collapse, and Europe is alarmed.
Greece could spark a financial market panic that could hurt other shaky European economies.

Germany and France are very upset because this undermines their efforts to save the euro, and Greeks dont care about the euro.
However, they dont realize the cost.  The debt deal was meant to help Greece stay out of bankruptcy.

People are trying to leave Greece to pursue a better future.  Thousands of Greeks have filed to immigrate to Australia and other countries.
The middle class started feeling the pressure as the cuts in salaries and heavy taxation increased.

PRAY for St. Luke and staff
The facility is under Greek public health system and depends on government payments for its financial well-being.
The Greek government owes the hospital a tremendous amount of money and needs help.

AMG (Christian ministry dealing with hospitals) Christians run St. Luke Hospital in Thessalonica and CosmoVision Center in Athens.
AMG continues to proclaim the gospel and the hope found in Christ. There is definitely a lot more interest in spiritual matters.
People are desperate. And when people get desperate, they tend to do a lot of soul searching, great opportunity to share the gospel.
The mobile medical unit can minister to Muslims in northern Greece.

Greece is a spiritual battleground
We need prayer for our leaders of the ministry, particularly St. Luke.
We need prayer for Greece, that God will work in the hearts of the people and the hearts of the leaders, and that there is a resolution.


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What is Antinomianism?
A.W. Tozer said - The Antinomians are Coming
Paths to Power, A.W. Tozer defined it this way.
Fundamental Christianity in our times is deeply influenced by that ancient enemy of righteousness, Antinomianism.

The creed of the Antinomian is easily stated:
We are saved by faith alone; works have no place in salvation; conduct is works, and is therefore of no importance.
What we do cannot matter as long as we believe rightly. The divorce between creed and conduct is absolute and final.

The question of sin is settled by the Cross; conduct is outside the circle of faith and cannot come between the believer and God.

Such in brief, is the teaching of the Antinomian.
And so fully has it permeated the Fundamental element in modern Christianity that it is accepted by the religious masses as the very truth of God.

Antinomianism is the doctrine of grace carried by uncorrected logic to the point of absurdity.
It takes the teaching of justification by faith and twists it into deformity."

CC wrote:
In layman's terms I would understand Tozer to say that the idea or doctrine of: so long as you got your ticket punched for the train to heaven, you can do whatever you want.  Even if you commit murder you're still going to heaven.  It translates into, some 50 odd years later, as "Easy Believeism".

So it would appear that Tozer was 100% correct in his assessment.  What he saw starting in his time, is full blown and main stream in ours.

You've also touched on a salvation issue, whether or not one can be saved under "easy believeism", and may be viewed as a judgmental type issue, and shouldn't be discussed.

The word itself means "against law".
The movement was started "by John Agricola about the year 1538."

Yes I'd say Antinomianism is - as you put it - easy believism.  Some say cheap grace.

There is a fine line to everything.  Each person ought to be careful how they word what they post.
If they do, open discussion should be just fine.

We are to study to show ourselves approved unto GOD. ... And we are to share with one another the lessons HE teaches us.
The older are to teach the younger.  The younger are to respect the older.  (I am a Senior citizen.)

Antinomian would come to bear on OSAS / ES .. correct.
The Apostle Paul judge the man in sin in 1 Corinthians - and told that church to THROW HIM OUT.
To say - dont ever judge - is unbiblical.

For me to say - 'You' are going to hell - that would be outside any of our jurisdiction.  

We are to follow Christ, His teachings, His written word.  
We are to avoid even the appearance of Evil.
We are to live holy.

We are to love one another.  There is no love if there is no Truth - no rebuke when warranted.

Yes the evils Tozer saw have become full blown today.  True.  There are so many  false churches that they outnumber the true ones.
That is why so many Christians with a very close relationship to the LORD are unchurched.

I suspect many in today's churches will not be in heaven.  Very sad thought.

I do not believe one is allowed to live in sin(s) after one becomes saved.  Grace is given to the newly saved.
Jesus accepts us as we are - but He loves us too much to leave us there.
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My sheep hear My voice, I know them and they follow me.
If they don't hear (obey) My voice, but prefer the doctrines of men then they aren't mine, they worship Me in vain, and I will not know them and they are not My sheep.

Titus 2
For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men. It teaches us to say No to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age while we wait for the blessed hope, the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good.
These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority. Do not let anyone despise you.

A Workman Approved by God *  2 Timothy 2
Keep reminding them of these things. Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen. Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth. Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly. Their teaching will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, who have wandered away from the truth.

They say that the resurrection has already taken place, and they destroy the faith of some. Nevertheless, God’s solid foundation stands firm, sealed with this inscription: “The Lord knows those who are his,”a and, “Everyone who confesses the name of the Lord must turn away from wickedness.”

In a large house there are articles not only of gold and silver, but also of wood and clay; some are for noble purposes and some for ignoble. If a man cleanses himself from the latter, he will be an instrument for noble purposes, made holy, useful to the Master and prepared to do any good work.

Flee the evil desires of youth, and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, along with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart. Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. And the Lord’s servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful.

Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.

Romans 12
I urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God--this is your spiritual act of worship.

1 Chronicles 28:9
Acknowledge the God of your father, and serve him with wholehearted devotion and with a willing mind, for the LORD searches every heart and understands every motive behind the thoughts. If you seek him, he will be found by you; but if you forsake him, he will reject you forever.

I the LORD do not change. Malachi 3:6

Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.
Hebrews 13:8

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