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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:57 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

Baptist Megachurch Minister In Hot Water Over Comments On Ten Commandments

GREENVILLE, S.C. (RNS) A Baptist minister is in hot water after preaching a sermon that called the Ten Commandments sayings or promises rather than mandates.

In his Christmas Eve message, Senior Pastor Perry Noble of NewSpring Church, which regularly has more than 32,000 worshippers at 11 campuses across South Carolina, told congregants that no word for “commandment” exists in Hebrew, the Old Testament’s original language.

“Instead of Ten Commandments that you have to keep if you’re going to be a follower of Jesus, they’re actually 10 promises that you can receive when you say yes to Jesus,” Noble said.

He then proceeded to rephrase each of the commandments as a promise. The first commandment, “You shall have no other gods before me,” became “You do not have to live in constant disappointment anymore.”

Noble told his far-flung congregation that he believed his topic was given by God for a specific people whose struggles over their inability to keep the Ten Commandments were preventing them from “saying yes” to Jesus.

But the president of the South Carolina Baptist Convention said Noble had better reassess his position or reassess his affiliation with the state’s Southern Baptist churches.

“His 2014 Christmas Eve message and his theological position in that message are evidence of continued problematic positions and statements that are inconsistent with the beliefs of South Carolina Baptists,” the Rev. Tommy Kelly said last week in a statement published in the denomination’s statewide newspaper, The Baptist Courier. Kelly is pastor of First Baptist Church in Varnville, S.C., in addition to heading the first state Baptist convention organized in the U.S.

After a backlash on social media and among bloggers, on Jan. 9 Noble wrote in his own blog that he had misunderstood what a teacher in Israel had told him: Hebrew does have a word for “commandment.” He apologized for his error.

“Regardless of what Bible scholars and Hebrew-speaking Christians in Israel believe the list of God’s 10 points in Exodus should be called — I have heard conflicting positions — the points themselves are clearly written as imperatives,” Noble wrote.

“In no way was I deliberately trying to mislead or deceive anyone. I simply recalled a conversation I had, … looked back at my notes and taught the message,” he wrote. “I now realize I should have put way more time into doing research.”

But Kelly, who acknowledged Noble’s apology, sent out his message a week later. Neither he nor Noble could be reached for comment.

NewSpring Church makes little public display of its affiliation with the Southern Baptist denomination. Based in Anderson, S.C., the church features live, professional-quality contemporary Christian music and Noble’s sermons in lifelike big-screen video at remote locations.

Noble, a native of Easley, S.C., who preaches in a conversational guy-next-door style, uses humor as well as high-tech visual aids and elaborate stage settings as backdrops for his sermons. He called the backlash from his sermon intense.

The day before his apology, he posted this on Twitter and Facebook: “If those who are angry at what I said about The 10 Commandments were actually following all 10, the world would be such a better place!”

“I have had to endure people making assessments about my life and ministry based upon one message I preached,” he later wrote in his apology. “It was wrong.”

So far, the apology doesn’t appear to have appeased Kelly, but no overt measures have been taken to kick Noble and NewSpring out of the state Baptist convention.

“All church leaders must take seriously their responsibilities to present well-thought and biblically based sermons and teaching that come from God’s infallible, inerrant Word and lead the lost to Christ,” Kelly wrote, urging pastors “to treat their individual ministry settings as a sacred trust.”
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Thursday, February 12, 2015
Ray Comfort and Bono

It's sad seeing pastors taking "Mr. Mephistopheles" seriously about "jesus". In fact if someone believes that Bono is actually a Christian they have absolutely no discernment whatsoever. The double messages are meant to influence people's minds in a negative fashion. Of course Ray Comfort is a false preacher.
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I know Ray Comfort after he started preaching in the Christchurch Square in 1974. He started preaching because he use to feel guilt and condemnation every time he walked through the square and saw someone calling himself a wizard speaking there and he thought "Someone has to do something". Of course it was the devil goading him to do it in the flesh; he has never preached in love but out of a fleshly obligation.

The test is how he treats hecklers - like absolute dirt - mocking, scoffing, and humiliating them.
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Always nice to see you Laz  Smile
If I recall correctly - if -
Ray Comfort favored voting for Barak Obama -
and Obama is a DISASTER
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Christians Concerned as Focus on the Family Watches, Reviews Porn Film ’50 Shades of Grey’

Christians across the country are expressing concern as Focus on the Family’s “Plugged In” movie staff has released its review of the pornographic film “Fifty Shades of Grey”—especially that a critic at the professing Christian ministry watched the porn just to tell other Christians that they shouldn’t watch it.

Plugged In said that it received an email from a follower who asked them not to review the film, and thus penned an blog post about the matter to explain its decision to watch and critique the material.

“Fifty Shades of Grey is, without question, one of the most ‘popular’ elements of popular entertainment right now—a movie at the center of conversation in countless break rooms and living rooms and even churches across the country[/b],” wrote staff film critic Paul Asay. “[T]he culture, including Christian culture, is deeply curious about Fifty Shades—not necessarily a prurient interest, but a deep-seated desire to understand why this book and now movie, which would seem to cater to a small subset, has become such a phenomenon.”

He said that he views himself as being a “watchman on the wall” in regard to Hollywood releases, and that is why he decided to go to a showing of “Fifty Shades of Grey” and write a subsequent review.

“[M]y prayer is that I can craft something that, while not necessarily revolutionary, will help all of us, myself included, think through the issues that swirl around the film,” Asay said. “I feel a sense of purpose here in that—a calling, if you will.”

But some state that Asay’s justification is faulty, as Christians shouldn’t be viewing porn just to tell others not to watch it.

[b]“Should Christians visit porn sites so they can examine the content in order to warn others about the dangers of pornography?” wrote evangelist Shane Dodson in a blog post about the matter. “The Scriptures warn us to ‘flee from sexual immorality,’ not run toward it in the name of evangelism. Even the lost knows that this material is trashy, why is it that a supposed mature Christian ministry hasn’t quite figured it out?”

It is a sad state for evangelical film criticism that watching pornography is viewed as ‘important work, anointed by God as part of the Great Commission,’” he added.

Truth in Action Ministries, founded by the late author and preacher D. James Kennedy of Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church and Knox Theological Seminary, also wrote on Focus on the Family’s Twitter page in objection to its decision.

“You don’t have to watch it to know how it can burn you. Proverbs 6:27,” they wrote.

Others left comments as well.

“Unbiblical reasoning,” wrote wife and mother Lisa Metzger. “It simply makes you a ‘purely journalistic porn-watcher and missionary adulterer.'”

Blogger Hannah Grace made similar comments, stating that it should be obvious to Christians that the film should be avoided.

“Why is the Christian populous even thinking about it? Why do they even know what ’50 Shades of Grey’ is? Why do Christian leaders even have to tell us not to watch it—shouldn’t it be obvious?” she asked.

“Plugged In—in their unfortunate choice to bring pornographic films into their scope of film criticism—have committed the error of conflating porn as art. I hope and pray that those in control of such things repent of their blasphemy and of causing brothers and sisters to stumble,” Dodson said. “The Lord Jesus Christ warned of a horrible fate for those who would cause a believer to stumble (Mark 9:42). Focus on the Family should heed that warning, because there is more than just their credibility on the line here.”
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1Thes 5:21  Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
1Th 5:22  Abstain from all appearance of evil.
1Th 5:23  And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
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Les Feldick

Don't Settle For Les

Les Feldick is a false teacher, and this is a short warning about him and his ministry, lest you fall to their deception too. Les is located in Oklahoma. His website claims,

What Les really likes is teaching the Bible. He has been teaching home-style Bible classes for over 30 years. His teaching is non-denominational, and his students come from diverse denominations and backgrounds. It was through one of these classes that a student helped open the door for his "Through the Bible" television program. (www.lesfeldick.org/les-biog.html, hard copy on file of all documentation)

Feldick's and his ministry's version of "teaching the Bible" in reality is "teaching lies." So the truth is, Feldick really likes teaching deceit. This is well illustrated via the examples below of his ministry's lies from his website. We say his ministry, because the following quotes have been taken from the book entitled, Questions and Answers from the Bible, and it is stated that it is "by Les Feldick," but later near the end of the web page this statement is found:

Les Feldick has recorded more that 600 Bible teaching television programs. The program transcripts have been assembled into books of twelve transcripts each, and there are now 50 books and counting.

The questions that are answered in this book were written by Paul Hartley, who also assembled the answers to the questions by gathering passages from Les Feldick's books which address each of the questions. Additional editing was then provided by some of Les Feldick's other Bible students. Care has been taken to confirm that the selected passages properly address each question for which they are provided as the answer. This process is explained here so that the readers will not think that Les Feldick provided each of these specific answers when asked each of these specific questions. (www.lesfeldick.org/lesqa.html)

So, evidently the following quotes are a compilation of Les and those in his ministry.

I. Creation

Feldick and his ministry have fallen prey to the "gap theory" lie.

Turn to Genesis 1:1,2. Last time we talked about Christ's being the Person of the Godhead who called everything into being. We talked about how the Hebrew word "Barah" indicates not only creation, but perfect, beautiful creation. God can't create something that isn't perfect and good. Throughout Chapter 1 of Genesis, we see that as God made things, He inspected them and recorded that "it was good." Yet, when we come to verse 2 of this Chapter we read: "And the earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep."

That hardly sounds perfect and beautiful. Rather it implies a "mess," chaos. If God, in verse 1, created the earth beautiful and perfect, (we have no indication of the time element between these two verses) and now, in verse 2 it's less than that, it's obvious that something drastic has happened. That beautiful creation of verse 1 has been changed into something ..... "without form, void, covered with water, and enveloped in darkness."

This is the first flood. A flood condition existed over the entire face of the planet. This may be an explanation of why God told Noah in Genesis 9:13,15: "I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth...And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh ."

Why would God make so big an issue of not ever destroying the world again in this manner? Because He made this covenant with Noah, following the second worldwide flood which destroyed all life. (www.lesfeldick.org/lesqa-c.html#7c)

Feldick finds much in the white space between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2. He finds an indefinite amount of time ("we have no indication of the time element between these two verses") with a worldwide flood that changed everything ("That beautiful creation of verse 1 has been changed"). Scripture, of course, teaches no such thing (Proverbs 30:5-6).

Genesis 1:2 is simply describing the state of the earth in the very beginning of the creation of God on that first day (Genesis 1:5). "Without form, and void" describes the desolate yet unfinished condition of the earth.

The Hebrew construction for "without form, and void" (tohu vâvohu) is only found one other place in the Bible, Jeremiah 4:23. There the context is the "fierce anger" of the Lord (verse 26) and the prophet is seeing a desolate earth, "without form, and void."

The first Hebrew word, tohu (without form) is found only in one other place, Isaiah 34:11. KJV & NKJV translate it as "confusion," NAS as "desolation" with the footnote, "Or, formlessness". The context dictates more like the NAS translation, as the verse prior to this says,

From generation to generation it shall lie waste; no one shall pass through it forever and ever. (Isaiah 34:10 NKJV)

The context is dealing with the condition of the land (see verses 9-13) and the "desolation" (NAS) is paralleled with stones of "emptiness" (NKJV, vohu).

Psalm 139:16 well illustrates the idea of something being "without form," yet something is there.

Your eyes saw my substance, being yet unformed.

Here there is substance seen, yet it is unformed.

Proverbs 8:27 reveals that at some point in the beginning of the creation of God, the Lord "drew a circle on the face of the deep," indicating a condition before this action as Genesis 1:2 describes. The earth was without form. When a circle was drawn on the face of the deep, God gave it a form (a particular shape).

The second Hebrew word, vohu (void), is found also only in Deuteronomy 32:10 (wilderness, NKJV); 1 Samuel 12:21 (empty things); Job 6:18 (nowhere); 12:24 (wilderness); 26:7 (empty space); Psalm 107:40 (wilderness); Isaiah 24:10 (confusion); 29:21 (empty words); 40:17 (worthless); 41:29 (confusion); 44:9 (useless); 45:18-19 (vain); 49:4 (nothing); & 59:4 (empty). This word, vohu (void), in its usage in Genesis 1:2 indicates an empty earth. In other words, an earth that is not filled, as Genesis 1 later describes, with vegetation, animals, etc..

Furthermore, in the quote above Feldick states,

We talked about how the Hebrew word "Barah" indicates not only creation, but perfect, beautiful creation. God can't create something that isn't perfect and good.

The Hebrew word "Barah" indicates no such thing, in itself. For example, God creates (borê', from Barah) evil. This is explicitly stated in Isaiah 45:7 (see also Proverbs 16:4; Romans 11:36). Evil is neither perfect nor beautiful.

II. The Fall

In the context of the question, "Why did Adam and Eve eat the forbidden fruit?", Feldick writes,

Adam loved his Creator; but he loved his beautiful helpmeet more, and he thought he was about to lose her. So he had to choose, and he decided he'd rather eat the forbidden fruit and violate the Word of God than lose her and remain obedient. (www.lesfeldick.org/lesqa-a.html#7a)

This is more information Feldick has fabricated in the white spaces. Read Genesis 3:6. Adam didn't love his Creator, evidenced by his actions (1 John 5:3), and this supposed motive of love and loss is pure fantasy. Scripture never describes Adam's motive for his fall, other than rebellion against God (Proverbs 17:11).

III. False Gospel

A. No Repentance

Feldick's "gospel" is seriously perverted. In answering the question, "How were people saved in Old Testament times?" he says people today are saved as Abraham was saved, via "faith + nothing." But then, he writes, decribing the salvation of OT saints,

Now to make my point, how did people back here from Adam, Abel, Seth, Noah, and all the way up to Abraham, how did they come into a right relationship with God, faith + nothing? No way, but rather it was faith + sacrifice. They couldn't approach God without the sacrifice. Coming up to the Cross even in Christ's earthly ministry, did Jesus ever teach the concept of a salvation by faith and faith alone. No. What were they to do? They were still to be adherence [sic] to the Law of Moses, they also had the added responsibility of repentance and water baptism, + their faith. But faith alone wouldn't cut it. Even in the early chapters of Acts, it wasn't just faith and faith alone. They had to repent and be baptized, and that was a requirement. It wasn't just empty words, but a requirement.

But then along comes the apostle Paul with faith + nothing, and this is why he had so much opposition. (www.lesfeldick.org/lesqa-a.html#10a, bold in original)

In another place Feldick says,

It's not that we have to repent, . . ." (www.lesfeldick.org/lesqa-a.html#18a).

So, even though Paul himself said God commands all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30), according to Feldick, Paul didn't mean that, and you don't need to repent to be saved; even though there is no salvation apart from repentance (e.g. Luke 16:27-30; 2 Timothy 2:25; 2 Peter 3:9).

Moreover, whether it be in the OT or the NT, salvation has always been through faith, as Hebrews 11 testifies, speaking of the very first saved man and others:

By faith Abel offered to God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, through which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts; and through it he being dead still speaks. By faith Enoch was taken away so that he did not see death, "and was not found, because God had taken him"; for before he was taken he had this testimony, that he pleased God. But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him. By faith Noah, being divinely warned of things not yet seen, moved with godly fear, prepared an ark for the saving of his household, by which he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness which is according to faith. (Hebrews 11:4-7)

Ephesians 2:8-9 says,

For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.

Salvation has always been by grace through faith. It has always been the gift of God. It has always been "faith + nothing," that is, in the Biblical sense of "faith + nothing" (e.g. Romans 4:3-5; see our report on Not By Works). It has never been Feldick's perverted idea of faith + nothing = no repentance. If faith is present, so will repentance be (James 2:14-26).

In the quote above, Feldick writes, "did Jesus ever teach the concept of a salvation by faith and faith alone. No." Yes He did, time and again (John 3:15-18; 5:24; 6:29, 35, 40; etc.).

B. Two Gospels

Feldick's deceit above is based, at least in part, because of his unbiblical concept of two gospels. Speaking in the context of Matthew 24:14, "And this gospel of the kingdom...", he writes,

This Gospel of the Kingdom. Not the Gospel of Grace. We preach today the Gospel of Grace that you must believe for your salvation, that Jesus died for your sins, was buried, and rose from the dead. Jesus Himself revealed that to the Apostle Paul, and Paul alone, in I Corinthians 15:1-4, Romans 10:9-10 and many other places in Paul's writing. But Jesus and the twelve preached the Gospel of the Kingdom which is believing for salvation that Jesus was the Messiah, repentance, and baptism. This is found in Matthew 3:2, Matthew 4:17, Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38 and many other Scriptures in the four Gospels and the Book of Acts through at least Chapter 15. So this gospel of the Kingdom:

Matthew 24:14b

"...shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come."

Isn't that plain? But you have to know which Gospel. Paul tells us in Galatians 2:7-9 that there were two Gospels, one that he (Paul) preached to the Gentiles (uncircumcision) by revelation from Jesus Christ. And the other that John the Baptist, Jesus, Peter and the 12 preached to the Jews or Nation of Israel (circumcision). So as you study, notice who is speaking and who is being spoken to. (www.lesfeldick.org/lesqa-c.html#15c, bold in original)

There are not two gospels, but only one (Galatians 1:8-9). Even in the context of those who are under the law, and then those who are not under the law but rather in the new covenant, the writer of Hebrews declares,

For indeed the gospel was preached to us as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in those who heard it. (Hebrews 4:2)

Whether it was to "them" ("who came out of Egypt led by Moses," Hebrews 3:16) or to "us," ("in these last days spoken to us by His Son," Hebrews 1:2), it is the gospel. It is the gospel Paul said is declared in the heavens (Romans 1:18/Psalm 19:1-4). It is the eternal gospel (Revelation 14:6-7), which must be "mixed with faith," as Hebrews 4:2 says. The gospel has always and ever shall be faith in what God says, as it is written,

Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God. (Deuteronomy 8:3; Matthew 4:4; Luke 4:4)

C. False Forgiveness & Judgment

In Feldick's false gospel, you will also find a false forgiveness and a false judgment.

I noticed in my studies of this past week that in all of Paul's letters that we never have to beg God to forgive us of our sins. Think about that. And yet for most people who are putting out the plan of salvation they say, "You have to ask God to forgive you of your sins, you have to repent." Well I can't find any of this in Paul's letter to the Church Age believers. It's not in here, but rather my Bible tells me that when Christ died the death of the Cross, He took on Himself not just the sins of those who are saved, but rather He took on the sins of every human being that has ever lived or will ever live. And when He took every human being's sin then He could cry to the Father, "Those sins are forgiven," All of those sins are buried in the deepest sea, never, never to be brought before us again. So even when lost people slip out of this life into eternity, their sins are already forgiven. But they had not believed unto Salvation. (www.lesfeldick.org/lesqa-a.html#18a)

Feldick says, "So even when lost people slip out of this life into eternity, their sins are already forgiven." Jesus said,

If you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. (Matthew 6:14-15)

Feldick continues,

You know I think when people go to the Lake of Fire for all eternity, they won't be going there for all their sins. They're not going there because of the drunkenness, and adultery and whatever you want to call sin. They're going there because of their unbelief! And if I'm not remembered for anything else I want to be remembered for that. That lost humanity is going to their eternal doom for only one reason, and that is they refuse to believe that everything is already done. (ibid., bold in original)

Ecclesiastes 12:14 declares,

For God will bring every work into judgment, including every secret thing, whether good or evil.

Jesus said,

By your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned. (Matthew 12:37)

Matthew 25:31-46 illustrates Christ's judgment will be according to one's behavior. Romans 2:6 says God "will render to each one according to his deeds." Revelation 20:11-13 reveals men will be judged according to what they have done. Feldick and those in his ministry are insane (Ecclesiastes 9:3).

Another loony statement in this same section is found before the quote above. Feldick states,

I've often said that Cain was probably a better person than Abel. It wouldn't surprise me a bit. Because Cain tried, but what was his problem? Cain didn't believe what God said.

1 John 3:11-12 says,

For this is the message that you heard from the beginning, that we should love one another, not as Cain who was of the wicked one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his works were evil and his brother’s righteous.

IV. Not Everything

Feldick lies about God. He says,

How can God Who is a God of love and mercy possibly consign people someday to that awful Lake of Fire? Listen it will be easy, and I mean that. It's going to be easy, because He's done everything that could possibly be done to keep them from it." (www.lesfeldick.org/lesqa-a.html#19a)

This is a lie, a big lie. God has not "done everything that could possibly be done to keep them from it." He has done just the opposite. He didn't do the miracles in Sodom that would have caused the people to repent had He done so (Matthew 11:23). Instead, He chose not to do them, and as a result the inhabitants of Sodom have been in torment for about 4000 years so far and will continue to suffer "the vengeance of eternal fire" (Jude 7) for the rest of eternity.

Likewise, He didn't do the mighty works that would have caused the inhabitants of Tyre and Sidon to repent (Luke 10:13). Likewise, He chose not to give hundreds of thousands of Israelites "a heart to perceive and eyes to see and ears to hear" (Deuteronomy 29:4), but instead swore in His wrath, "They shall not enter My rest" (Psalm 95:11; Hebrews 3:16-19). Likewise, Jesus purposely spoke in parables so that people would not understand, because he chose not to give them understanding (Matthew 13:11); so they would not be forgiven (Matthew 13:14-15). Likewise, the Lord simply made it impossible for the Jews to believe (John 12:39) to ensure they wouldn't get saved (John 12:39-40).

Why? Because this is God's eternal purpose.

He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens. (Romans 9:18, 22-23)

V. The Exact Opposite

In a similar theme of denying the word of God, Feldick writes,

Malachi 1:2 says, "Jacob have I loved and Esau have I hated. Was God being unfair?"

Answer: First, the term "hate" in Scripture is a comparative term. In other words, God's love for Jacob was so much greater that comparatively speaking, He hated Esau. Why did God have such a low esteem for Esau? Because, Esau was destitute of Faith. He had none! Hebrews 11:6, without faith it is impossible to please Him. Esau showed his total lack of faith when he gladly exchanged His Birthright, which was Spiritual, for a bowl of bean soup. He showed it again, when he married Canaanite wives and still again when he went and married a daughter of Ishmael. Everything in Esau's life showed a complete absence of faith. Nothing God said counted in Esau's thinking. (www.lesfeldick.org/lesqa-e.html#4e, bold added)

Romans 9:11-13 says just the opposite. Speaking of Jacob and Esau it says,

(for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls), it was said to her, "The older shall serve the younger." As it is written, "Jacob I have loved, but Esau I have hated."

The statement of loving Jacob and hating Esau is in the context of them not "having done any good or evil." Feldick says just the opposite.

Likewise, Feldick speaks the opposite of Romans 2:28-29 when he says,

How many people have come up to me and said, "Well we've always been told that when we became a Christian we became a Jew." And I always tell them, I don't know who told you that but they are way out in left field, because a Jew is a Jew by virtue of, first and foremost, his birth, his genetics, his blood line, and the keeping of the Law. But a Gentile is a Gentile of the Gentiles, and if you've had salvation then you are simply a Gentile sinner saved by Grace, and not a Jew. (www.lesfeldick.org/lesqa-a.html#10a)

Note God's "way out in left field" view:

For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart. (Romans 2:28-29a)

Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham. (Galatians 3:7)

VI. Ecumenical

Feldick teaches,

This composite of believers around the whole world that makes up the True Body of Christ, whether we're Methodists, Baptists, Lutherans, Catholics - that's moot. If we're born again and children of God, we are automatically in that Body of Christ, and that Body of Christ will be meeting in Church buildings. But always remember that not all people meeting in those Church buildings are in the Body of Christ. That depends of course how much of the "Truth" is promoted. If the people in that particular building believe for their salvation that Jesus Christ died for their sins, was buried and rose again, + Nothing, then these people are what are called "true believers, and are part of the Body of Christ!" (www.lesfeldick.org/lesqa-b.html#4b, bold and italics in original)

For a Biblical exposure of ecumenism, please see www.atruechurch.info/savednot.html.
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7/1/15 To All Pastors, Prophets, Preachers, Teachers, Evangelist

Teachers of the word of God 7/18/15

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lazarusty wrote:
Why Christ is being given a bad name amongst unbelievers and why real believers are going to be blamed and persecuted as a result:

Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Televangelists (HBO)
WARNING: Some language may offend.

Some of the beings in that video are not even in the Body of Christ.
They are the slathering wolves Timothy warns will arise in the Last Days.
Televangelists are people who spread the Word of God on TV.
Tele scandalists are wolves who fleece the sheep.
I swear some are diagnosticly insane and/or demon possessed!

Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.
Ephesians 5:11

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