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SINNER'S PRAYER AND SALVATIONSINNER'S PRAYER AND SALVATION
Many of you may not like what I am going to say here, but that is alright. Now, let me just say that salvation DOES NOT come from saying a prayer. Salvation comes from BELIEVING ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.
Acts 16:29(KJB) Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas,
Acts 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
Acts 16:31 And they said, BELIEVE on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
I have NO PROBLEM with anyone praying, but before someone prays, they must believe first. It is worthless for someone to pray and they do not even believe in Christ and his death, burial and resurrection. If they do not believe first, we leave the door open for the person to count on the prayer for their salvation and not Christ. I came across a someone and confronted him about leading someone in prayer for salvation. He told me that when he got saved, he repeated a prayer and that he knows that he is saved. He was counting on the prayer and not Christ.
Just take a look at the book of Acts. There is not one person mentioned who prayed for salvation. Praying is not even mentioned. IT IS ALL ABOUT TURNING FROM UNBELIEF TO BELIEF IN CHRIST AND HIS FINISHED WORK AT CALVARY (REPENTANCE). so praying is NOT NECESSARY FOR SALVATION but, if someone would like to pray, I have no problem with it, if they believe first.
1. The Ethiopian Eunuch (Acts 8:26-39)
2. The Apostle Paul (Acts 9:1-8; 22:5-19; 26:12-1
3. Cornelius and his household (Acts 10-1 through 11:1
4. Antioch firstfruits (Acts 11:19-26)
5. Sergius Paulus (Acts 13:6-12)
6. Glorifying the Word in Pisidian Antioch (Acts 13:14-49)
7. Iconium Believers (Acts 14:1)
8. Lydia (Acts 16:12-15)
9. The Philippian Jailer (Acts 16:16-34)
10. Thesalonicans with Biblical reason (Acts 17:1-4)
11. Berean Belief (Acts 17:10-12)
12. Mars Hill Idolaters (Acts 17:16-34)
Not one time do these verses mention that any of them prayed for salvation or had to pray for salvation.
Look at John 3:16-18:
John 3:16(KJB) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever BELIEVETH in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
John 3:18 He that BELIEVETH on him is not condemned: but he that BELIEVETH NOT is condemned already, because HE HATH NOT BELIEVED IN THE NAME OF THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD.
John 1:12(KJB) But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that BELIEVE ON HIS NAME:
John 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
1Corinthians 1:21(KJB) For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching TO SAVE THEM THAT BELIEVE.
So, soul winning will take time. It may take someone a long period of time before they will believe the gospel (1 Corinthians 15 1-4). A few visits may have to be made. So, be patient, keep praying for the lost and trust the Lord. Stop being in such a hurry to get someone to pray. Let the Lord do a work in them through the power of the Holy Spirit. May the Lord bless you all.
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