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Israel, Obama, Jerusalem and the Holocaust
April 10, 2010
 By Joel Leyden, Israel News Agency

It's really kind of difficult to know where to begin here.
Perhaps it is with a profound feeling of nausea toward the current president of the United States.

Barack Obama has acted to create instability and conflict in the Middle-East more than any other US President.

But first allow me to preface that I will tread gently here as many do not really know the history nor the politics of the Middle East.
For academics, journalists and INTEL, you would eat any news coming out of Israel for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

But for John Doe in Cleveland or Michael Rubin on Facebook, little is known about Israel,
her democracy and the terrorism, the real threats that Israel faces on a minute by minute basis.

So here is a little Israel 101.

Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East.
The Jewish state has its ancient roots going back in Israel well over 5,000 years.
Jewish history can be physically traced back over 3,000 years to 1400 BCE while the invention of
Islam was AD 610 and Islamic Palestine was 1967.

Lastly, there was never a Palestinian state.
Never a Palestinian capital, nor currency or stamps.
The word Palestine is the cognate of an ancient word meaning "Philistines" or "Land of the Philistines".

The Philistines were neither Jewish nor Muslim though they did fight the Israelis as illustrated in the biblical stories of
Samson, Samuel, Saul and David.
As a matter of pure fact, the Dead Sea Scrolls, authentic copies of the Jewish bible dating back to before the destruction of Judea,
illustrate the history of the ancient land of Israel.

As modern Israel was created by the UN in 1948
the UN General Assembly on November 29, 1947 offered a partition plan in British Palestine,
calling for the creation of two states, one Arab and one Jewish.
The Jews legally accepted the plan as the Arabs, led by greed, went to war against the Jews hoping to secure all of British Palestine.

The Arabs lost and the Jews won this war of 1948. In doing so, the ancient Jewish capital of Jerusalem was now clearly back in the hands of the Jews. David the King of Israel first established Jerusalem as the capital of the Jewish Nation in 1000 BCE, and his son Solomon commissioned the building of the First Temple in the city. The Western Wall of the Second Jewish Temple in Israel or otherwise known as the HaKotel, still stands today and is revered as Judaism most holiest site. The Babylonians destroyed the First Temple with the Romans destroying the Second Temple on the same site and the new Muslim religion built the Dome of the Rock over the Jewish Temple in 691-692.

As a result of Israel's victory over Jordan in the Six-Day War of June 5–10, 1967, what was then East Jerusalem became united into one city. The Jewish Western Wall was now open to Jews to pray at after thousands of years.

From the 1960s onward, the term "Palestine" was reinvented by Egyptian born Yasser Arafat and his Palestine Liberation Organization and used in political contexts by Arabs to refer to the land that was once ruled by the Jordanians and the Israelites thousands of years before.

Jerusalem was, is and will always remain the Israel capital. Under Jordanian rule, Jews were forbidden to pray in Jerusalem while under Israeli rule, all three major religions enjoy democratic and the free right to pray where they wish.

Now enter US president Barack Obama.
(NOTE - Obama is not president, he is an illegal, a usurper!)

After making every effort to seduce the Jews of the US to vote for him, including this writer, once in office he declared that Jews no longer should have the right to live in Jerusalem. Obama was referring to what was once East Jerusalem.
Barack Obama has made it perfectly clear that Jewish blood is worth less than an Islamic terror presence placed directly in Jerusalem.

Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was actually told this again when he was in Washington two weeks ago as he visited the White House. But Obama would not listen to Netanyahu. Rather he walked out of his meeting with the Israel Prime Minister to have dinner with his wife and left Netanyahu with a tapped phone to use. Netanyahu, embarrassed as no Israel leader has ever been before, left the White House for the Israel Embassy where he held consultations.

Israel, the only democracy in the Middle East, had been treated like dirt, behavior usually reserved for a third world dictator by the US.

Yes, I voted for Barack Obama. Yes, I was proud of voting for the first Black US President.
But I had become color blinded, voting for Obama more as a symbol of my Jewish heritage reflecting tolerance and respect for minorities than voting for Obama out of his political and intellectual abilities.

But that same tolerance and respect has not been shown to the Jews of the US let alone the Jews of Israel. Jews who now face increased terrorism and a new regional war as a result of Obama trying to sell the Jews of Israel out to Arab oil.
The appeasement of Islamic Jihad.

Let's keep this simple.

Jerusalem is the ancient capital of Israel. The Jews have every historical and biblical right to live and build in Jerusalem. Second, even if Israel attempted to compromise on some of what was once East Jerusalem - one must look at what happened when Israel left Arab Gaza in a unilateral peace move in August 2005.

Since 2005, the Islamic terror groups Hamas and Islamic Jihad have continued to wage an Islamic Holy War against Israel by attacking Israel with over 12,000 lethal rockets. Hamas has openly declared, as its supporter Iran has, that they would only accept the complete and total destruction of Israel.

Hamas and Islamic Jihad have declared war on every Jew and Christian - from the New York World Trade Center, the Pentagon in Washington, the London Underground Bombings to terrorism and murder in the streets of Moscow, Paris, Egypt, India and Turkey.

If Israel was to give the "Palestinians" - whoever they might be - Fatah, Islamic Jihad, Hamas and Hizbullah - one square mile of Jerusalem - would they not use it again to launch attacks against Jewish and Christian Jerusalem?

Barack Obama does not care. It is not as if Hamas and Islamic Jihad were slamming missiles into Los Angeles or Detroit from the Mexico or Canada border.

Barack Obama has made it perfectly clear that Jewish blood is worth less than an Islamic terror presence placed directly in Jerusalem.

And how would Israel respond to Qassam and Katusha rocket attacks from a new Islamic Jihad third front on Israel in East Jerusalem? Would Jordan, a peace partner of Israel, not be sucked into conflict? Would that not lead to a regional war?

How many Jewish, Christian and Muslim lives would be lost?

Does Barack Obama really care?
Both his words and actions have already created increased acts of terror and anti-Semitism against every Jew from Jerusalem, Haifa and Tel Aviv to Miami, Paris and London.

As Israel enters Holocaust Memorial Day, we silently bow our heads and tearfully remember the lives of over 12 million people murdered by the Nazis, of which 6 million were Jews who had perished by being shot, hung or gassed.

Barack Obama - do you not remember your visit to the Yad Veshem Holocaust Memorial in Jerusalem?

To the President of the United States of America - Israel has only two words for you.
Do not try to spin these words with a Passover Seder at the White House or some PR spin as to how you sympathize with all Jews on the occasion of the Holocaust.

Mr. Obama, hear it loud, hear it clear.

Never again

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The mountains of Israel of Ezekiel are in what the Bible calls Judea and Samaria, ISRAEL, but the world calls the West Bank.
They are sometimes called the mountains of Jerusalem, as Jerusalem, the City of GOD, is in Judea and Samaria.

There appear to be 13 named mountains.
Mount of Beatitudes, Mount Carmel, Judean Mountains, and others.

See Luke 21, Psalm 125

Thus says the Lord GOD,
Behold, I AM against you, O Gog, prince of Rosh, Meshech and Tubal
and I will turn you around, drive you on, take you up from the remotest parts of the north and bring you against the mountains of Israel.
I will strike your bow from your left hand and dash down your arrows from your right hand.
You will fall on the mountains of Israel, you and all your troops and the peoples who are with you
I will give you as food to every kind of predatory bird and beast of the field.
You will fall on the open field; for it is I who have spoken, declares the Lord GOD
And I will send fire upon Magog and those who inhabit the coastlands in safety; and they will know that I am the LORD.

Ezekiel chapters 37, 38 and 39
Ezekiel 37
Ezekiel 38
Ezekiel 39

These 2 videos will tell you all you need to know about ISRAEL.

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The plain truth about Israel, Glick

The plain truth about Israel
June 08, 2010  
/     Sivan 26, 5770 By Caroline B. Glick
Next time somebody asks you to rethink the American-Israel relationship, have them consider this

In other times, Hearst Newspapers White House Correspondent Helen Thomas's demand that the Jews "get the hell out of Palestine," and go back to Poland, Germany and America would have been front page news in every newspaper in the US the day after the story broke.

In other times, had the dean of the White House Correspondents Association expressed such hatred for the Jews, the White House would have immediately removed her accreditation rather than wait three days to criticize her.

In other times, the White House Correspondents Association would have expelled her.
In other times, her employer — Hearst Newspapers — would have fired her.

But in our times, it took days for anyone other than Jews and conservatives to condemn Thomas's vile statements to Rabbi David Nesenoff. And she was not fired. She was allowed to retire.

Our times are times of Jew hatred. Our times are times when hatred breeds strategic madness. Our times are times when we need to recall basic truths about Israel and the Jewish people. Specifically, we must remember that the US is privileged to count Israel as an ally — whether Americans like Jews and our state or hate us.

THIS WEEK, Anthony Cordesman from the respected Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies joined the bandwagon of Israel bashers. In an article titled, "Israel as a Strategic Liability?"
Cordesman asserted that Israel "is a tertiary US strategic interest." And given its alleged insignificance, Israel must "become far more careful about the extent to which it test[s] the limits of US patience and exploits the support of American Jews." Cordesman argued that Israel is only an asset to the US when it is giving its land away to its neighbors. He calls for Israel to constrain its military actions and demands that it "not conduct a high-risk attack on Iran in the face of the clear US 'red light' from both the Bush and Obama administrations." The fact that Cordesman's article reflects an increasingly popular school of thought in the US is not testimony to its accuracy.

Indeed, his arguments are completely wrong.
The plain truth is that Israel is the US's greatest strategic asset in the Middle East.
Indeed, given the strategic importance of the Middle East to US national security, Israel is arguably its greatest strategic asset outside the US military.

Cordesman allows that "Israel is a democracy that shares virtually all of the same values as the United States." But he fails to recognize the strategic implications of that statement. As a democracy, unlike every Arab state, the US does not need to worry a change in leadership in Jerusalem will cause it to abandon its alliance with the US. This of course is what happened in Iran, which until 1979 was the US's most important ally in the Persian Gulf. As Egyptian dictator Hosni Mubarak ages, the US faces the prospect of a post-Mubarak Egypt led by the Muslim Brotherhood similarly abandoning its alliance with America.

The fact that the US and Israel share the same foundational values also guarantees that the alliance is stable. No government in Jerusalem will ever sway the Israeli people away from America as has happened in Turkey since the Islamist Erdogan government took office in 2002.

Cordesman grudgingly allows that Israel provides intelligence to the US. But he refuses to acknowledge how important that intelligence has been. Since September 11, 2001, US military and intelligence officials have repeatedly admitted that Israeli intelligence has been worth its weight in gold for US security operations in the region and around the world.

Cordesman also notes that Israeli technology has contributed to US defense, but again, undervalues its significance. The very fact that pilotless aircraft — first developed by Israel — are the lead force in the campaign in Afghanistan and Pakistan gives lie to his tepid admission of Israel's technological contribution to US security.

LIKE MANY on the Left, Cordesman ignores the fact that Israel's enemies are the US's enemies.

But his failure to note that the same people who call for Israel to be destroyed also call for the US to be destroyed does not make this fact any less true. And since the US and Israel share the same foes, when Israel is called on to fight its enemies, its successes redound to the US's benefit.

In many ways, Israel — which has never asked the US to fight its wars — has been the catalyst for the US's greatest triumphs. It was the Mossad that smuggled out Nikita Khrushchev's secret speech acknowledging Stalin's crimes at the 20th Communist Party Conference in 1956. The publication of Khrushchev's speech in the West was the first turning point in the Cold War.

So too, Israel's June 1982 destruction of Syria's Soviet-made anti-aircraft batteries and the Syrian air force was the first clear demonstration of the absolute superiority of US military technology over Soviet military technology.

Many have argued that it was this demonstration of Soviet technological inferiority that convinced the Reagan administration it was possible to win the Cold War.

Beyond politics and ideology, beyond friendship and values, the US has three permanent national security interests in the Middle East:

• Ensuring the smooth flow of affordable petroleum products from the region
• Preventing the most radical regimes, substate and non-state actors from acquiring the means to cause catastrophic harm

• Maintaining its capacity to project its power in the region A strong Israel is the best guarantor of all of these interests. Indeed, the stronger it is, the more secure these primary American interests are. Three permanent and unique aspects to Israel's regional position dictate this state of affairs.

First, as the first target of the most radical regimes and radical substate actors in the region, it has a permanent, existential interest in preventing these regimes and substate actors from acquiring the means to cause catastrophic harm.

The 1981 IAF strike that destroyed Iraq's Osirak nuclear reactor prevented Iraq from acquiring nuclear weapons. Despite US condemnation at the time, the US later acknowledged that the strike was a necessary precondition to the success of Operation Desert Storm 10 years later. As Richard Cheney has noted, if Iraq had been a nuclear power in 1991, the US would have been hard pressed to eject Saddam Hussein's army from Kuwait and so block his regime from asserting control over oil supplies in the Persian Gulf.

Second, Israel is a non-expansionist state and its neighbors know it. In its 62 year history, Israel has only controlled territory vital for its national security and territory that was legally allotted to it in the 1922 League of Nations Mandate which has never been abrogated or superseded.

Israel's strength, which it has used only in self-defense, is inherently nonthreatening.
Far from destabilizing the region, a strong Israel stabilizes it by deterring the most radical actors from attacking.

In 1970, Israel blocked Syria's bid to use the PLO to overthrow the Hashemite regime in Jordan. Its threat to attack Syria not only saved the Hashemites then, it has deterred Syria from attempting to overthrow the Jordanian regime ever since.

Similarly, Israel's neighbors understand that its purported nuclear arsenal is a weapon of national survival and hence they view it as nonthreatening. This is the reason the alleged nuclear arsenal has never spurred a regional nuclear arms race.

In stark contrast, if Iran acquires nuclear weapons, a regional nuclear arms race will ensue immediately. Indeed, it has already begun. Turkey, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and other states have all signed contracts to develop nuclear installations.

Although they will never admit it, Israel's non-radical neighbors feel more secure when it is strong. On the other hand, the region's most radical regimes and non-state actors will always seek to emasculate Israel.

Finally, since as the Jewish state Israel is the regional bogeyman, no Arab state will agree to form an open alliance with it. Hence, it will never be in a position to join forces with another nation against a third nation.

In contrast, the Egyptian-Syrian United Arab Republic of the 1960s was formed to attack Israel. Today, the Syrian-Iranian-Turkish alliance is an inherently aggressive alliance against Israel and the non-radical Arab states. Recognizing the stabilizing force of a strong Israel, the moderate states of the region prefer Israel to remain strong.

FROM THE US perspective, far from impairing its alliance-making capabilities in the region, by providing military assistance to Israel, America isn't just strengthening its most stabilizing force, it is showing all states and non-state actors in the greater Middle East that it is trustworthy.

But every time the US seeks to attenuate its ties with Israel, it is viewed as an untrustworthy ally by the nations of the Middle East. US hostility toward Israel causes its neighbors to hedge their bets by distancing themselves from the US lest America abandon them to their neighboring adversaries.

The Obama administration's willingness to effectively back Turkey and Hamas against Israel at the UN Security Council last week forced Vice President Joseph Biden to drop everything and fly to Egypt this week. Watching the US abandon Israel and strengthen the most radical actors in the region, the Egyptians are terrified that they can no longer believe in US security guarantees.

A strong Israel empowers the relatively moderate actors in the region to stand up to the radical actors because they trust it to keep the radicals in check. When it is weakened, the radical forces are emboldened. Regional stability is thrown asunder. Wars become more likely. Attacks on oil resources increase.

The most radical substate actors and regimes are encouraged to strike.

Cordesman claims that Israel only advances US strategic interests when it works toward the creation of a Palestinian state. But this is wrong. To the extent that the two-state solution assumes that Israel must contract itself to within the indefensible 1949 cease-fire lines and allow a hostile Palestinian state allied with terrorist organizations to take power in the areas it vacates, the two-state solution is predicated on making it weak and empowering radicals.

In light of this, the two-state solution as presently constituted is antithetical to America's most vital strategic interests in the Middle East.

In our times, when Jew hatred has become acceptable and strategic blindness and madness are presented as nuanced sophistication, it is essential to maintain a firm grip on the truth. And that truth is that love the Jews or hate us, the US's alliance with Israel has been and remains America's most cost-effective national security investment since World War II.
JWR contributor Caroline B. Glick is the senior Middle East Fellow at the Center for Security Policy in Washington, DC and the deputy managing editor of The Jerusalem Post.

ECONOMY * Israel loses Turkey, gains Greece

This is NOT really news.  Its been clear Turkey chose Evil for months.

Israel loses Turkey, gains Greece
July 4, 2010  
debka -  Israel has finally moved on from its fractured relationship with Turkey - notwithstanding the impression conveyed by some US and Israeli circles that the damage is not beyond repair.
This week, the Israeli Minister of Trade and Labor Minister, Binyamin Ben-Eliezer made last-ditch bid to save the relationship by initiating a meeting in Zurich with Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davuto?lu.
It went badly and was hotly debated at the Israeli cabinet meeting Sunday, July 4. Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said he thought it was worth a try,
but most ministers said that given Ankara's harsh hostility, it should never have taken place.

Meanwhile, as Western and Turkish media outlets harped on Israel's loss of its only Muslim ally in the Middle East, Jerusalem was busy acquiring a new strategic partner:  
Greece, a NATO member like Turkey with plenty of Middle East interests, has shown interest in stepping into Turkey's shoes and investing in stronger military and intelligence ties.

DEBKA-Net-Weekly 450 reported on June 25 from sources in Athens and Jerusalem that this development was not so much planned in Jerusalem as initiated by Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou, who boasts many Jewish and Israeli friends and business contacts, some of whom hold high political and intelligence positions in Israel. He saw Athens' chance to slot into Ankara's place in Jerusalem and transform their present diplomatic, economic, military and intelligence ties into a thriving strategic alliance, that would carry the same advantages to both sides as did Israel's former relations with Turkey.

According to some sources, Papandreou also hopes this alliance will help ease some of his country's financial woes. But most of all, he is looking to Israel for help in speeding the upgrade of his armed forces and helping transform them into the Christian mainstay of NATO in the Balkans and southern Europe - in place of the Muslim Turkish army.

This notion was not the direct outcome of Israel's break with Turkey or the clash aboard the Turkish Mavi Marmara on May 31 between Israeli commandos and pro-Palestinian Turkish activists. It has been evolving for some time, first broached in the summer of 2008 when Papandreou allowed 100 Israeli F-15 and F-16 fighter-bombers to pass through Greek Mediterranean air space for practicing long flights and in-flight fueling.

The distance between Israel and Greece there and back is 1,900 kilometers, identical to the distance between Israel and Iran.

The Greek prime minister went out of his way to be of assistance, making available to the Israeli Air Force the crews and advanced S-300 PMU1interceptor missile batteries Athens purchased from Russia back in 2000. They were allowed to practice bombing sorties against these batteries, in case Moscow decided to sell them to Iran and Syria.

The severe financial crisis besetting Greece this year enhanced the friendly ties between Athens and Jerusalem. While European Union countries spent long months discussing whether to bail Greece out and save it from collapse (eventually granting a €110 billion package), Papandreou turned to Jewish financial titans in Europe and the United States for help to keep the Greek economy afloat.

Israel revoke Oslo Accords?
July  29,  2011  
 Will Israel revoke the Oslo Accords in response to Palestinian UN bid?
Israel is discussing alternatives ahead of September.
One idea is voiding the Oslo Accords in response to the Palestinian unilateral plan to gain United Nations recognition for an independent state.
Palestinian terrorists want the United Nations to recognize a Palestinian state within the 1967 borders as a full UN member.

Those are INDEFENSIBLE borders for Israel, exactly the world plan to annihilate Israel entirely.
God's written Word coming to pass in our lifetime!
Remember, Barak 0bama is Muslim and also hates Israel.

The Oslo Accords between Israel and the PLO were struck between 1993 and 1995, and are the
legal framework for the relationship between Israel and the Palestinian Authority in matters including security, economy and infrastructure.
Doing away with the accords would require reexamining key issues, primarily the status of the PA in the West Bank.

Oslo - Norway - HATES ISRAEL like Nazis - dozens of kids were killed there this month - shot at a 'Hitler youth camp'
I thot all those people were a blood sacrifice of the illuminati (NWO, globalists) right after Bohemian Grove -
for accomplishing a big satanic purpose.  WHAT that big this was I didnt know.  Thinking.
Norway shooting and bombing

He will confirm a covenant with many for one seven.  In the middle of the seven he will put an end to sacrifice and offering.
And on a wing [of the temple] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.
Daniel 9:27

This is very interesting news, being only this week I was talking to someone about the covenant being confirmed, meaning one existed but would be confirmed.
Daniel 9:27   is a MUCH MISINTERPRETED verse!

Israel agrees to negotiate over pre-'67 lines
August 2011
— In a dramatic policy shift, Israel's prime minister has agreed to negotiate the borders of a Palestinian state based on the cease-fire line that marks off the West Bank, a TV station reported Monday.

Up to now, Benjamin Netanyahu has refused to spell out his plan for negotiating the border. A senior Israeli official would not confirm outright that the prime minister was now willing to adopt the cease-fire line as a starting point, but said Israel was willing to try new formulas to restart peace talks based on a proposal made by President Barack Obama.

In a speech about the Middle East in May, Obama proposed negotiations based on the pre-1967 line with agreed swaps of territory between Israel and a Palestinian state. Netanyahu reacted angrily, insisting that Israel would not withdraw from all of the West Bank, though that was not what Obama proposed.

Now Netanyahu is basically accepting that framework, according to Channel 2 TV, offering to trade Israeli territory on its side of the line for West Bank land where its main settlements are located.

The official, who has been briefed on the talks, spoke on condition of anonymity because the contacts are still in progress. He said he would not deny the TV report, while refusing to confirm the specifics. He emphasized that Israel would not withdraw from all of the West Bank.

"We are willing in a framework of restarting the peace talks to accept a proposal that would contain elements that would be difficult for Israel and we would find very difficult to endorse," he said, answering a question about the Obama proposal.

Part of the reason, he said, was that Israel is seeking to persuade the Palestinians to drop their initiative to win U.N. recognition of their state next month, something the Palestinians are doing out of frustration with stalled peace efforts.
Palestinian officials said they had not received such a proposal from Israel.

Palestinians have demanded that Israel stop construction in its West Bank settlements and east Jerusalem before peace talks resume. Netanyahu wants talks with no preconditions where issues like settlements and borders would be discussed, along with his insistence that the Palestinians recognize Israel as a Jewish state.

Netanyahu Concedes to Obama – if Abbas Drops UN Ploy
Aug 2011
The Netanyahu government has confirmed it will accept renewed talks with Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas, based on the 1949-1967 borders, if the PA scraps its initiative to ask the United Nations for recognition.
Renewed talks also are conditioned on Abbas' recognizing Israel as a Jewish state, a statement he has said he never will make.

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu told President Barack Obama at a White House meeting last May that returning to the temporary 1949 Armistice Lines, which were in effect until the Six-Day War in 1967, would force “indefensible borders” on Israel.

The president has since emphasized that talks “based on 1967 borders” means that there is room for negotiations on what land should be retained under Israeli sovereignty.

In an seeming concession to President Obama, the Prime Minister now is willing to meet with Abbas on condition that the Palestinian Authority withdraw his plan to go the United Nations.
However, in response to the report, the office of the Prime Minister stated, "There has been no change in government policy. The proposal for renewed talks is conditioned on Israel's being defined as a Jewish state."

The Arab League already has submitted a request to the United Nations for recognizing the Palestinian Authority, but there is deep division within the PA over the possibility that the tactic may leave them empty-handed.

The “peace process” has been dead for two years, if not longer, and is buried underground in the view of most analysts. The attempt to dig it up and resurrect it may be at the behest of United States, which has suffered a sharp decrease in its influence in the Arab world since President Obama’s failure to follow up with results on the ground after his “reaching out to Muslims” speech in Cairo two years ago.

An official United Nations discussion on recognizing the Palestinian Authority as an independent country would relegate the ”peace process” to an obituary in history books. It is not clear if Abbas would prefer that.

"Over the last few weeks there has been an ongoing attempt to restart the peace process to allow for the resumption of direct talks between Israel and the Palestinians," a government official told the French news agency AFP. "The assumption is that if this process succeeds, the Palestinians will withdraw their proposal for unilateral action at the UN."
He added that President Obama’s statements on the old borders of Israel not being written in stone “is the sort of language that we can live with.”

The United States has indicated, without a total commitment, that it will cast a veto in the United Nations Security Council, whose recommendation for recognizing a new state is needed before the General Assembly can vote on it.

That would leave the PA with having to settle for a non-binding resolution, based on its own political and territorial demands for all of Judea and Samaria as well eastern, northern and southern Jerusalem, commonly referred to East Jerusalem by mainstream media.

The government’s change of attitude towards the expression Obama used, confirmed by an unnamed official in foreign media, effectively forces Abbas to make the move in what has become a long and drawn-out diplomatic chess game.

Abbas has not responded to Netanyahu’s latest proposal to resume talks and formerly has stated that he would be willing to “negotiate” with Israel only after the Jewish state accepts all of its demands, which he said are non-negotiable. The ball is back in his court.

Arab League finalizing PA statehood application for UN
August  4, 2011
Representatives of the Arab League were scheduled to meet in Doha, Qatar on Wednesday night to lay the final touches on the Palestinian Authority’s application to the UN for recognition of a Palestinian state on the pre-1967 lines.

The meeting comes as the PA leadership in Ramallah continues to face pressure from the US and EU to abandon its statehood plan and return to the negotiating table with Israel.

The meeting in Doha was being attended by several Arab legal experts who were invited by the PA to help in the wording of the application to the UN in September.
Chief PLO negotiator Saeb Erekat and Arab League Secretary- General Nabil Elaraby, who is considered an expert on international law, are also participating in the discussions.

When the application is completed, it will be handed over to the UN secretarygeneral so he could bring it before the General Assembly in September, a PA official said.
Representatives of Egypt, Morocco, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Oman, in addition to the PA, were taking part in the discussions on the statehood bid, the official said.

Israel okays 1,600 settler homes for East Jerusalem
Israel's interior minister has given final approval for a plan to build 1,600 settler homes in East Jerusalem, a project whose announcement last year during a visit by U.S. Vice President Joe Biden caused a diplomatic rift with Washington.

The official announcement Thursday of the go-ahead from Interior Minister Eli Yishai could weigh on U.S.-led efforts to dissuade the Palestinians from seeking United Nations endorsement of statehood in the absence of peace talks they suspended over Israeli settlement construction.

Nabil Abu Rdainah, spokesman for the Palestinian presidency, called on the United States, the European Union and other sponsors of the Middle East peace process to pressure the Israeli government to halt the settlement plans.

Initial approval for the 1,600 housing units in Ramat Shlomo, a religious Jewish settlement in an area of the West Bank annexed to Jerusalem by Israel, was given in March 2010, casting a shadow on Biden's visit while highlighting U.S.-Israeli differences over such construction.

Biden condemned the Israeli plan at the time and U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, in unusually blunt remarks, called it an insult. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu voiced regret for the timing of that announcement but rejected any curbs on settlement in and around Jerusalem.

NO REASON Israel cant build their people homes on their own land God gave them!

Abbas to Haniyeh: Don't give up on Palestinian unity
PA president calls Hamas PM, urging him to implement agreements reached between factions; Haniyeh: "There will be no return backward."
Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas on Thursday phoned Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh and urged him to preserve the climate of reconciliation between the two sides, according to a statement released by Hamas.

Abbas stressed during the phone conversation the importance of activating the agreements that were reached in Cairo recently between Fatah and Hamas, the statement said.

Earlier this week, Hamas and Fatah representatives who met in the Egyptian capital announced that they had reached an agreement on a number of sticking points, including the release of prisoners from their prisons and granting Palestinian passports to residents of the Gaza Strip.

Abbas pointed out that the Cairo discussions were held in a positive atmosphere and stressed his keenness to move forward with the reconciliation pact between Hamas and Fatah, the Hamas statement said. It added that Abbas also offered his greetings to the Hamas leader on the beginning of the holy month of Ramadan.

With regards to the reconciliation accord, Abbas was quoted as saying: “We want to work together on this issue.”
Haniyeh, for his part, was quoted as telling Abbas that he too was keen on preserving the positive climate of reconciliation between the two parties.
“There will be no return backward,” Haniyeh said. “We support accelerating the process of implementing the reconciliation.”

Samira Halaika, a Hamas legislator, said on Thursday that Palestinians in the West Bank were frustrated with the failure of Hamas and Fatah to implement the reconciliation accord that was announced in Cairo in early May.
Halaika said that Palestinians in the West Bank were facing instability and insecurity because of the continued arrest campaign by the PA security forces against Hamas supporters.

“Residents of the West Bank don’t see any difference between the period that preceded the reconciliation and the period afterwards,” she said.
She also noted that PA security forces earlier this week arrested a number of young men who went to pray in a mosque in Hebron.

In another case, PA security forces summoned for interrogation several Palestinians who came to greet a Hamas activist who was released from Israeli prison. PA security officers also raided the home of the released prisoner, Ashraf Daraghmeh, in the Jenin area, and confiscated documents and posters, his relatives said.

CJ NOTE - There is no Palestinian unity.

PA: Israeli gov't seeking to create facts on the ground
Aug 2011
 Abu Rudaineh, Erekat slam Israel's expected approval of 4,300 housing units in east Jerusalem over next week; Fatah: Israel trying to solve its social and economic problems at the expense of the Palestinians.
The Palestinian Authority on Thursday strongly condemned Israel’s decision to build new housing projects in east Jerusalem and accused the Israeli government of seeking to create new facts on the ground.

In a nod to the hundreds of tents across the country,  Interior Minister Eli Yishai (Shas) approved 1,600 apartment units in the east Jerusalem haredi neighborhood of Ramat Shlomo late on Wednesday night. The Hebrew media reported that the Interior Ministry was working to prepare two additional projects in east Jerusalem, including 2,000 projects in Givat Hamatos and 625 units in Pisgat Zeev.

Nabil Abu Rudaineh, spokesman for PA President Mahmoud Abbas, said that the decision was an attempt by the Israeli government to create new facts on the ground ahead of a UN vote next month on recognition of a Palestinian state along the pre-1967 lines.
Abu Rudaineh called upon the US and EU to exert pressure on the Israeli government to “stop this unilateral measure” on the part of Israel.

Abbas’s Fatah faction accused Israel of waging a “new aggression” on Palestinian territories by approving the new projects in east Jerusalem. It described the decision as a blow to the will of the international community and the UN.

“We reject the policy of the Israeli occupation government to solve its social and economic problems at the expense of the Palestinians and their occupied territories,” Fatah added in a statement.
“We are determined to defend the rights of our people and resist the occupation’s settler projects through legal means.”

Chief PLO negotiator Saeb Erekat condemned the housing projects as a “war crime” and urged US President Barack Obama to change his position against the PA’s statehood bid at the UN.

“We condemn this action which is considered a wear crime by the 1949 Geneva Conventions,” Erekat said. He pointed out that the decision was announced the day after Obama and Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu talked over the phone.

“The only way to preserve the option of the two-state solution – Palestine and Israel – is through the UN and that Palestine be accepted as a member on the 1967 borders,” Erekat said. “Then the policy of settlement construction and imposing dictates on us will become null and void.”
Erekat also criticized the US and other countries for putting pressure on the PA to abandon its statehood plan. “This pressure is completely unacceptable and will plunge the region into a cycle of violence, extremism, anarchy and bloodshed,” he cautioned.

‘Acceptance of PA’s UN bid will push back talks for years’
September  1,  2011  
Senior official warns that UN General Assembly resolution recognizing PA as a nonmember state would create unbridgeable gaps.
A UN General Assembly resolution recognizing the Palestinian Authority as a nonmember state would create unbridgeable gaps and push back negotiations for years, a senior Israeli official warned Wednesday.

The official said that once such a resolution was passed, the Palestinians would never be willing to negotiate on the basis of anything less, and no Israeli leader would ever be able to agree to what the Palestinians would likely get from the UN.

He said that such a move would be a “strategic mistake by the world,” and said this was well understood by the US.
At the same time, the official said that Israel had no intention of negotiating with the Palestinians over the language of the resolution to be brought to the UN, and that Israel was focusing on the “principle,” not the language.

He said that on a certain level the resolution would complicate matters for the Palestinians as well, since the PA would replace the PLO at the UN, and this would have ramifications regarding the refugee issue.
Once a Palestinian state is recognized, Israel’s case that the refugees be resettled in that state will become stronger.

The official also said it was an illusion to think that a Palestinian state could go it alone.
“It can’t stand on its own,” he said, adding that the Palestinians need Israeli assistance in everything from tax collection to combating Hamas.

Israel, he said, had no intention of announcing beforehand how it would react if the UN General Assembly passed the resolution, saying the government was compiling a “basket” of options, from “light reactions” such as denying VIP passes to PA officials, to “heavy” ones.
Which particular “arrow” to take out of the quiver, he said, would depend on a large number of imponderable developments.

Although the official did not spell out which “heavy” reactions were under consideration, National Infrastructure Minister Uzi Landau told The Jerusalem Post this week that he would recommend declaring the Oslo accords null and void, and annexing the Jordan Valley and large settlement blocks.

The official said that the premise in Jerusalem was that there was nothing that Israel could do – such as announcing beforehand what “price” the Palestinians would pay for such a move – that would prevent Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas from going to the UN.

Sep 2011
The Obama administration has begun a last-ditch diplomatic campaign to avert a confrontation this month over a Palestinian plan to seek recognition as a state at the United Nations, but it may already be too late, according to senior American officials and foreign diplomats.

The administration has circulated a proposal intended to be the basis of renewed peace talks with the Israelis - based on a formula that President Barack Obama outlined in May - in hopes of persuading the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, to abandon the bid for recognition at the annual gathering of the U.N. General Assembly beginning Sept. 20.

The administration has privately made it clear to Mr. Abbas that it will veto any request that comes before the U.N. Security Council to make a Palestinian state a new member outright. But the United States alone does not have enough support to block a vote by the General Assembly to elevate the current status of the Palestinians' nonvoting observer ''entity'' to that of an nonvoting observer state.

Palestine: we want UN vote for statehood
September  4,  2011  
The Palestinian Authority confirms that it will seek recognition as a state at the United Nations, Palestinian chief negotiator Saeb Erekat told the Voice of Palestine radio station on Sunday.
Erekat told the station that the Palestinians would initiate peaceful demonstrations this month to draw world's attention to their appeal at the UN and did not intend to enter into any clashes with the Israeli forces at the Palestinian territories.
He also asked the U.S. and Europe to support the Palestinians and approve their statehood as most of countries in the world had done, the radio station said.

New York Times said on Saturday quoting U.S. senior officials and foreign diplomats that the Obama administration circulated a proposal for renewed peace talks with the Israelis in the hopes of persuading the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, to abandon the bid for recognition at the annual gathering of world leaders at the United Nations General Assembly beginning September 20.

The paper also said that the administration made it clear to Abbas that it would veto any request presented to the UN Security Council to make a Palestinian state a new member, but the United States did not have enough support to block a vote.

Palestinians press U.N. for statehood vote
October   29,  2011
U.S. prepared to use veto if Security Council passes resolution.
The Palestinian drive for United Nations membership may be resolved in the upcoming week, say diplomatic sources.
The United States has promised to veto the application, which has been under review in the Security Council for over a month. But Washington hopes to avoid casting such a stop sign.

The State Department is counting on the Palestinian Authority move receiving less than the required nine votes for Security Council approval, making a U.S. veto unnecessary.
Diplomats say the unofficial head counts put the yes votes between eight and nine.
A closed series of consultations is scheduled to consider the issue during the first week of November.

Washington will press for more time to consider the application, but the Palestinians are under pressure at home to move the issue to a vote.
Last week, the confrontation between the Palestinians, the U.S. and Israel rose to the surface during a brief Security Council meeting on the regional situation in the Middle East.

Unesco gives Palestinians full membership
October   31,  2011
Unesco, the United Nations' cultural agency, has decided to give the Palestinians full membership of the body, in a vote that will boost their bid for recognition as a state at the UN.
Unesco is the first UN agency the Palestinians have sought to join as a full member since President Mahmoud Abbas applied for full membership of the United Nations on Sept. 23.
The United States, Canada and Germany voted against Palestinian membership. Brazil, Russia, China, India, South Africa and France voted in favour. Britain abstained.

Huge cheers went up in Unesco after delegates voted to approve the membership Monday. One shouted "Long Live Palestine!" in French.
Israel said that the vote will harm prospects for the resumption of Middle East peace talks.

"This is a unilateral Palestinian manoeuver which will bring no change on the ground but further removes the possibility for a peace agreement," Israel's Foreign Ministry said in a statement. "This decision will not turn the Palestinian Authority into an actual state yet places unnecessary burdens on the route to renewing negotiations."

USA cuts off UNESCO
USA cut off funding for the UNESCO - U.N. cultural agency after its member countries defied an American warning and approved a Palestinian bid for full membership.
USA needs to cut off ALL funds for the UN.

Decision on Palestine’s statehood bid needed by New Year – ambassador
Nov 2011
A vote on Palestine’s statehood bid at the United Nations must be held by the New Year, Palestinian Ambassador to Moscow Fayed Mustafa said on Wednesday.
“It is expected that voting in the UN Security Council should finish by the New Year, even despite the fact that its permanent members have various opinions on this issue,” Mustafa said, adding that the situation will become much clearer after the crucial vote of the UN Security Council scheduled for November 11.

Earlier on Wednesday, the Secretary-General of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), Yasser Abed Rabbo, said that a total of eight out of fifteen members of the UN Security Council, including Russia, China, Brazil, India, South Africa, Lebanon, Nigeria and Gabon support Palestine’s admission to the UN.

Security Council decisions require the approval of at least nine of the 15 members, and no vetoes from the five permanent members (Russia, USA, France, Britain or China), in order to pass. The United States, however, has repeatedly stated its intention to block the adoption of Palestine.

Mustafa also said that if Palestine fails to be recognized this time, it will make more efforts in the future to get recognition. “We will probably fail [on November 11] since the United States strongly opposes it…This issue will remain on the agenda…and we will continue our efforts to resolve this problem.”

Palestinians Trying to 'Wipe Out Jewish History'
Nov 2011  JERUSALEM, Israel
-- An Israeli official says that the admission of Palestinians as a member state of UNESCO has emboldened them to claim Judeo-Christian biblical sites as their own.
The United Nations Education, Scientific and Cultural Organization admitted the Palestinians as a member state Nov. 1.

One of those sites is the Cave of the Patriarchs in Hebron. Four thousand years ago, the Bible says Abraham bought the cave in Hebron to bury his wife Sarah. Isaac, Jacob and their wives are also buried there.
But Palestinians want UNESCO to recognize the Cave of the Patriarchs and other sites as Muslim holy places in "Palestine."

Israeli government minister Yuli Edelstein said the Palestinian request is not about peace.
"Their demand is not about cooperation. Their demand is a political demand to wipe off all the traces of the Jewish history and Jewish connection to the region," Edelstein said.

The cave is currently divided between a mosque and a synagogue so each faith has a place to pray.
Israel was highly criticized when it announced plans to improve the site last year and include it as an Israeli heritage site.
The head of the Islamic authorities in Hebron said at the time that the site is holy only to Muslims.

"It is a pure Muslim holy place and there is no right for non-Muslims to be here or to pray here, and I'm against the presence of the Jews, even in the old city," Haj Zeid al Ja'bari, general director of Islamic Religious Authorities in Hebron, told reporters then.

Even before UNESCO admitted what it calls Palestine as a full member this month, it had already called the Cave and Rachel's Tomb in Bethlehem "Palestinian sites."
The Palestinian Authority now also wants the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem to be deemed a Palestinian site. The church is built over the site many believe to be the birthplace of Jesus.

Palestinians are also threatening to sue Israel for what they say is stealing Palestinian antiquities and attempting to change what they call the Islamic and Arabic character of Jerusalem's Old City.

Israelis say Jews and Christians alike should be concerned. Based on past experience, they won't likely be able to visit the site in Hebron if it comes under Muslim Palestinian control.
"We know for a fact that when the authorities were not Israeli authorities, Jews were not allowed even to be here," Edelstein said.

"The concept of an Islamic holy place is that no one else is allowed to be here," said David Bedein, bureau chief, Israel Resource News Agency.  
"The concept of a Jewish holy place is exactly the opposite," he said. "When there's a Jewish holy place, everyone can visit."

Bedein said that in 1975, Israel's then-ambassador to the U.N. Chaim Herzog answered an Arab challenge to Israel's rights to the Cave by using the Bible to make his case.
"He opened up the Bible to Genesis 23 and said, 'This is our right. We purchased it.'"
"It's ours and we're going to live here," he continued. "We're going to pray here and we're going to invite all the nations of the world to pray with us here.'"

Israel Security Council: Obama Naive on Muslim Brotherhood
January  3, 2012
Israel’s National Security Council thinks that President Barack Obama is naïve in his attitude towards the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, which stated Sunday it can’t fathom the idea of recognizing Israel.
Dr. Rashad Bayumi, the Brotherhood’s number two leader, said on Sunday, "No Muslim Brotherhood members will engage in any contact or normalization with Israel.”

President Obama has asked the Muslim Brotherhood’s leading jurist, Yusuf al-Qaradawi, to mediate secret talks between the United States and the Taliban, according to The Hindu newspaper. The jurist previously has called for killing U.S. soldiers in Iraq and has vowed that Islam “will conquer Europe [and] will conquer America,” whether by force or by the spread of radical Islam.

In early 2010, when American foreign policy experts could not imagine that the radical Muslim Brotherhood would emerge as the most powerful political force in Egypt, President Obama dismissed the party as a “faction,” adding that “they don’t have majority support in Egypt. But they’re well organized. There are strains of their ideology that are anti-U.S.”

Israel, Palestinians hold 'positive' talks
Israeli and Palestinian negotiators held a "positive" first face-to-face meeting in more than 15 months and agreed to meet again on Friday, but cautioned that full-blown talks were still some way off.

"The talks and atmosphere were positive," Jordanian Foreign Minister Nasser Judeh told reporters after Tuesday's talks in Amman between Israel's chief negotiator Yitzhak Molcho, his Palestinian counterpart Saeb Erakat and Palestinian negotiator Mohammed Shtayyeh.

Washington too welcomed what it described as a "positive development" after months of deadlock in peace talks over Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's refusal in 2010 to renew a freeze on most settlement construction in the occupied West Bank.
Judeh, who hosted the meeting in the Jordanian capital, voiced cautious optimism. "The two sides expressed their commitment to a two-state solution. We do not want to raise the level of expectations, but at the same time we do not want to minimise the importance of this meeting," he said.

CJ NOTE - Obama agrees with the MB!  He is NOT 'naive'

Eternal Deception!
When they say Israel should pull back to the 1967 borders,
they actually mean the 1948 border,
which would be impossible for Israel to defend.

Obamanation negotiations include 1967 Lines
1967 Lines are actually 1949 lines
To say 1967 is DECEPTION - they want Israel to give Jerusalem back and
return to the 1949 armistice line

PA talks include 1967 / 1949 lines, borders.
Israel-PA talks set by the United States will be based on the 1967 (1949) armistice lines.
Obama plans to prevent Israel buiding homes for Jews in Judea and Samaria, the HEART of Israel
The PA openly claims all land east of the 1949 armistice line as Arab land, including Jerusalem and the Temple Mount.
PA terror chief Mahmoud Abbas will never allow a single Israeli to live on Palestinian land.  He considers every inch of Israel as his.

The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan designated the Palestine state.
July 21, 2013  Palestinians hate the king and view the Hashemites as occupiers, intruders rather than legitimate rulers.  The MB have been trying to oust Jordan King Abdullah.  2/3 of Jordan population are Palestinian.

No nation wants Palestinians, they are not a legitimate people, and are always troublemakers.

A Covenant With Death
Hear the word of the LORD, you scoffers who rule this people in Jerusalem.
You boast, We have entered into a covenant with Death.  When an overwhelming scourge sweeps
by, it cannot touch us, for we have made a lie our refuge and falsehood our hiding place.

So this is what the Sovereign LORD says: See, I lay a stone in Zion, a tested stone,
a precious cornerstone for a sure foundation, the one who trusts will never be dismayed.

I will make Justice the measuring line and righteousness the plumb line,
hail will sweep away your refuge, the lie, and water will overflow your hiding place.
Your covenant with death will be annulled, your agreement with the grave will not stand.
When the overwhelming scourge sweeps by, you will be beaten down by it.
Isaiah 28:14-18

In 2005 Israel gave up the Gaza Strip for peace with the Palestinians.  
This angered GOD and HE sent Hurricane Katrina to punish the USA.
Since then things have only gotten worse for Israel.
Ariel Sharon who did the deed died (some claim assassinated) and remained plugged in on a slab from 2005 until 2014 when they finally buried him.
Ariel Sharon died January 5, 2006, Buried January 2014 - on the 13th

By making treaties with countries committed to their demise, the Israelites were fooling themselves.
Israeli policies of appeasement generate agreements based on wishful thinking that would be quickly broken.  This policy is self-deception.  
The coming treaty with the anti-Christ will just about bring them to ruin.

Having rejected the One who came in His Fathers Name
they will accept the one who comes in his own name.  John 5:43

Calamity called a Palestinian State

Obama may be considering sanctions on Israel

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