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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:57 pm    Post subject: CULTS, NAR, Dominionism, Copeland, IHOP, etc  Reply with quote

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False Christs and False Prophets
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For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. — Matthew 24:24

We’re watching prophecy unfold before our very eyes. The New Apostolic Reformation is lifting up a generation of self-appointed, self-anointed apostles who believe they’re on a mission from God to take over the world.

Sarah Leslie of Discernment Ministries, publisher of the excellent Herescope blog, joined us to talk about this movement–its history, its beliefs, and the links between these new apostles, mainstream evangelicals, New Agers, and political power brokers. It doesn’t take a prophecy scholar to see this leading to the one-world church of the Apocalypse.

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C. Peter Wagner, Chuck Pierce, Cindy Jacobs, Dr. Orrel Steinkamp, Dutch Sheets, Lou Engle, New Age, New Apostolic Reformation, occult, Rev. Samuel Rodriguez, Sarah Leslie

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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NAR New Apostle Reformation


Oh that's right - I remember you told me before (next time I won't forget).

In the bold - everyone except for Leslie(who was interviewed), yes.

I'll give a brief synopsis of what she said.

Leslie used to be in a branch of this NAR movement until she got out after she saw all the deceptions in it.

Pretty much - the NAR movement believes after the fall of man in the Garden of Eden, God lost dominion of the earth, and now latter day "apostles" have been appointed over the last 30 or so years to help clean up the earth, build the church, establish peace, so Christ's 1000 year mil can be ushered in.

C. Peter Wagner is the leader of this large network, which was founded by Bill Bright and another person I can't remember in the 70's(but really didn't get its foot on the ground until the late 80's).

Guess what - like in the political realm, this "Christian" network plays BOTH SIDES of the paradigm. They have their "Christian right" that staunchly defends pro-life, pro-Israel, pro-family values, etc.

However-they also have their "Christian left"-Jim "social justice" Wallis and Rev Rodriguez are also  members of this network.
And not to mention too Rick Warren was mentored by Wagner.  (Warren, unlike the "Christian right", has acted like he's "impartial" to both parties - as he's invited Sam Brownback and Obama simultaneously to Saddleback)

The NAR has gotten in bed with politicians too - Sen Brownback (KS) has connections to this group, as does Sarah Palin. And I BELIEVE a couple of Democrats may have connections too.

Ultimately, they NAR has visions of them being "7 mountains", and want to take over the media, education, politics(I forgot the other 4), et al before everything can be "established".
I mean 7 MOUNTAINS?? Have they bothered to read Rev 17, which said the woman riding the beast is on 7 MOUNTAINS, and that the beast will strip her naked and dispose of her when all is said and done? I mean these people are REALLY deluded.

Overall - this is no different from New Age occult teachings - alot of what they say are unbiblical, and if they really think they're the "appointed" ones, then they might as well tear up the last 3 chapters of Rev (when Satan gets thrown in the lake of fire for good AFTER the 1000 year mil reign).

Sarah Leslie gave a long list of names - not just this broadcast, but other broadcasts I've listened to her at. Some of the names that are involved in the NAR will shock you.
(ie - I first got saved when I watched Charles Stanley sermons regularly-he was never the "tickle your ears" type of guy, which is why it surprised me when I heard his name as one of the members)

Ezekiel 22:25 says there would be a conspiracy among the prophets.

There is ALOT of ground to cover with this subject - every time I read an article on it, it is LONG, b/c of JUST THAT.
I can see why today's church is leavened - b/c obviously all the infiltration by this network alone. And it's not just Rick Warren and his PDL nonsense -
I remember my former church raising money for Bill Bright.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New Apostolic Reformation

NAR Infiltration of the Messianic Christian Believers

I had experienced first hand in August 2007 of this taking place.
We went to a One New Man Conference put on by Sid Roth at
Morningstar International (Rick Joyner)

We went only for the purpose of learning about the first century church's understanding of the Feasts of the Lord and how it pertains to Christian Believers.
We also wanted to learn about how the Messianic Believers worshiped God, not as a diluted pagan church.

I came out of Catholicism forty two years ago and I always desired to serve the Lord the way that He intended. The NAR movement is similar to the infiltration the Catholic church did to the true church of the first three centuries.

They mixed in the world's paganism to form a new religion that is foreign to the true church. It blended in pagan holidays to form non-Christian days like Easter and Christmas to dilute from our thinking about the Feast of the Lord.

Morningstar International

So we went down to Morningstar International (formerly PTL) to learn about Messianic Jewish teachings from Sid Roth's One New Man conference.
He had Messianic Rabbi Curt Landry, Dr. Robert Heidler (1st century specialist), Tony and Felicity Dale (Establishing house Churches) and music by Paul Wilbur and Alyosha Ryabinou (Russian Messianic Jewish concert pianist).

Those parts were OK but we didn't know Sid Roth's connection to Rick Joyner was until now, they are both on each others board of directors.This gave Joyner the opportunity to mix the NAR movement with a segment of the Messianic Christians to dilute it like the Catholic church did to the early church.

They included in the conference several more speakers that were a part of the NAR movement like: David Herzog, Diane Nutt, Kathie Walters, Jeff Janson, Cindy Parton and Steve Thompson (part of Joyners ministry team)
They tried to deceive with their false teachings and strange signs but the Lord protected us and eventually revealed who they were.

We witnessed false signs of Gold Dust falling, gold appearing in teeth,

This explains the truth where this originated from

There was jewel stones appearing on the floor, so called angel orbs lights appearing, extreme intoxication of the spirit, soaking Kundalini meditation and angel feathers.

All of this started back in the Toronto Blessing Revival in Canada and has been spreading ever since.

Why I Left The Prophetic Movement

Andrew Strom came out of this and gave warnings why he left the NAR movement.

Now he is warning the believers about the more extreme levels of paganism that NAR  is involved in:

This is the Kundalini Awakening which gets deep into the New Age and Eastern Religion.

this link details the comparison between the new revival and new age.

Todd Bentley

After the 2007 One New Man conference both Sid Roth and Rick Joyner promoted Todd Bentley which went deep into the Kundalini Awakening.
We witnessed this first hand and wanted to warn the true church to flee from this paganism before it destroys your soul.

David Wilkerson has a You Tube video (9 minutes) warning the church about weird manifestations and pleads for them to stop.

Please Church, heed the warnings, don't follow false teachings that let you stray from the truth of the Bible.

Our only source of truth should be the Bible only!

Read and pray for understanding, our eternity depends on it!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I knew Todd Bentley is an Evil man.
I knew Kundalini is very Evil
I am familiar with unleavenedbreadministries  and I do NOT trust it, beware.

Things I have heard and read about Rick Joyner are disturbing - including part of a book he wrote which I had to stop reading, my spirit was so disturbed.

I LOVE Paul Wilbur and Alyosha Ryabin and the Messianic movement!
I know some are pretenders to be Messianic.  Some are even into witchcraft but claim to be messys.

I met Andrew Strom and his family personally some years ago when they lived in Kansas City.  Nice people.

Tragicly many are fooled by the satanic antics of Benny Hinn and Todd Bentley.
More are fooled by the GODLESS Rick Warren.

I cant tell you how sad it makes me that so many well known leaders are part of Evil.
And they are exposed by unknowns.
And dont believe anything you hear on TV.  There is no honest news source there.

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The only reason I used unleavenedbreadministries is because they had that comparison list between the NAR and the Kundalini movements.

Other than that, I'm not real familar with them

Paul Wilbur is one my favorites too
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Another thing - Jesus and the Apostles stressed numerous times that Christians WILL be HATED by the world.

throughout all those years seeing all these "influential evangelists" getting ALOT of airtime on CNN, FOX, MSNBC, and other mainstream news channels...while I never thought about it at the time, just to put it into retrospective, shouldn't it RAISE ANYONE's suspicions seeing these people getting embraced by the WORLD and all those secular journalists like Larry King, Sean Hannity, Anderson Cooper, etc, when in fact Jesus and the Apostles preached the contrary?

And for that matter too - all those years of the "religious right" hitting everyone with guilt on who they have to vote for(Republican, of course), why weren't any of them preaching the gospel? Did Jesus and the Apostles ever tell everyone in Caesar's government over who they have to vote for in the Roman Empire's elections? And to top it off - while I agree abortions and gay marriage are an abomination to God, has anyone ever noticed that our 'Republicans' on Capitol Hill ALMOST NEVER do anything to stop these abominations, although they sure talk the talk quite a bit?

Anyhow - there were just so many red flags going up - it wasn't so much what they were saying, but it was so much what they were NOT saying.

Guess what - from all those years of the "religious right", guess what we have now, the RELIGIOUS *LEFT*! ABC did a news segment on "new" evangelicals that are pushing agendas to work together for the *common good*(but like with the "religious right", they didn't say anything about the gospel of salvation).

I truely feel God's judgements are coming on this nation in increasing birth pangs now - never in my wild imagination think there would ever be a "religious left"(although Rick Warren played the good 'ole boy role of "impartiality" by acting like he reaches out to both Republicans and Democrats alike).
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Worldview Weekend Radio with Brannon Howse
Before it was called the New Apostolic Reformation it was called the New Order of the Latter Rain. How interesting that this movement began in 1948 as a “new order”. Hear the audio from early 2012 as NAR proponent Chuck Pierce spoke of the coming “new kingdom order” on Rick Joyner’s MorningStar TV. Brannon explains why he believes the false church, that includes the NAR, Word of Faith, and neo-evangelicals are actually assisting in spiritually building the New World Order of the pagan globalists whether they know it or not. The NAR, WOF, and neo-evangelicals are promoting mysticism and Gnosticism that includes the belief that Jesus will return into his church before he returns for his church. Hear the quotes of Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, Paul Cain, Kenneth Hagin, and Bob Jones speaking of how the church is Christ, how Jesus was not born God but born a man and how man is able to become little gods. Hear the audio of Ryan Wyatt on MorningStar TV explain how the church will become the manifested sons of god and do the things Jesus did while hear on earth. Listen carefully as Brannon reads quotes from New Ager Barbara Marx Hubbard. Hubbard teaches the idea of the Omega Point which is when man begins to understand he is becoming Christ. The NAR teaches a very similar idea and the church will become Omega Children. Brannon explains why he believes the NAR and New Age are following many of the same occult philosophies and are both laying the foundation for Satan’s one-world system as predicted in Daniel and Revelation.

Audio: http://worldviewweekend.com/world...radio/play.php?id=showsFlat-20994
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An Ex-Faith Healer Explains The Tricks Used(WOTM Radio)

This is an interview on Way of The master Radio with Todd Friel interviewing an ex faith healer, Mark Haville, who, after reading the Bible, realized the unbiblical nature of it. He explains the tricks used to make people think they are healed and how they make people fall over.
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