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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:34 am    Post subject: BRITAIN, England, London UK * BREXIT  Reply with quote




London riots
August  8,  2011  
London picked itself up on Sunday from some of the worst violence seen in the British capital for years which politicians and police blamed on criminal thugs but residents attributed to local tensions and anger over rising financial hardship.
Rioters throwing petrol bombs rampaged overnight through an economicaly deprived district, setting police patrol cars, buildings and a double-decker bus on fire.

Police said 26 officers were injured as rioters bombarded them with missiles and bottles, looted buildings including banks, shops and council offices, and torched three patrol cars near Tottenham police station in north London.
The riots erupted after a street protest over the fatal shooting of a man by armed officers this week turned violent.

Residents said they were forced to flee their homes to escape the trouble as mounted police and riot officers on foot charged the crowd to push rioters back.

As day broke, the Metropolitan Police, which will handle next year’s London Olympic Games in what is expected to be Britain’s biggest peacetime operation, faced questions about how the trouble had been allowed to escalate.

The disturbance was only finally brought under control on Sunday after hours of sporadic clashes. Buildings were still smouldering, bricks littered the roads and burglar alarms continued to ring out.

At a nearby retail park, electrical stores and mobile phone shops had been ransacked, with boxes for large plasma televisions discarded outside, along with CDs and glass from smashed windows.

“They have taken almost everything,” said Saad Kamal, 27, branch manager of retailer JD Sports. “Whatever is left is damaged.”

APPEAL FOR CALM

Local member of parliament David Lammy and police chiefs appealed for calm.

“This must stop,” Lammy told reporters, saying they did not know if everyone had escaped flats above shops that were gutted by fire. “A community that was already hurting has now had the heart ripped out of it.”

The trouble broke out on Saturday night following a peaceful demonstration over the shooting of Mark Duggan, 29, who was killed after an exchange of gunfire with police on Thursday. Duggan’s death is now being investigated by the independent police watchdog.

The riots also come amid deepening gloom in Britain, with the economy struggling to grow amid deep public spending cuts and tax rises brought into help eliminate a budget deficit which peaked at more than 10 percent of GDP.

“Tottenham is a deprived area. Unemployment is very, very high ... they are frustrated,” said Uzodinma Wigwe, 49, who was made redundant from his job as a cleaner recently.
“We know we have been victimised by this government, we know we are being neglected by the government,” said another middle-aged man who declined to give his name. “How can you make one million youths unemployed and expect us to sit down?”

Tottenham has a large number of ethnic minorities and includes areas with the highest unemployment rates in London. It also has a history of racial tension with local young people, especially blacks, resenting police behaviour including the use of stop and search powers.

NOTORIOUS RACE RIOT IN 1985

The disorder was close to where one of Britain’s most notorious race riots occurred in 1985, when police officer Keith Blakelock was hacked to death on the deprived Broadwater Farm housing estate during widespread disturbances.

Locals said there had been growing anger recently about police behaviour.
“I’ve lived in Broadwater Farm for 20 odd years and from day one, police always pre-judge Turks and black people,” said a 23-year-old community worker of Turkish origin who would not give his name.

Fingers were also pointed at the police for failing to anticipate the trouble, although Commander Adrian Hanstock said there had been no hint of what was coming. He blamed a “mindless minority” for the trouble.

The London force has been heavily criticised for its handling of recent large protests against austerity measures, while its chief and the top counter-terrorism officer have quit over the handling of the News Corp phone-hacking scandal.

“I’m concerned that what was peaceful protest ... turned into this and it seemed to go on for many hours before we saw the kind of policing that I think is appropriate,” Lammy said.
Politicians said that criminals, rather than those with genuine grievances, had taken advantage of the situation.

“The rioting in Tottenham last night was utterly unacceptable,” a spokesman for Prime Minister David Cameron said. “There is no justification for the aggression the police and the public faced, or for the damage to property.”

The capital also saw riots at the end of last year when protests against government plans to raise tuition fees for university students in the centre of London turned violent with police and government buildings attacked.
During the most serious disturbances last December, rioters targeted the limousine belonging to heir-to-the-throne Prince Charles and his wife Camilla, kicking its doors,
a window and reportedly jabbing Camilla with a stick.
http://www.montrealgazette.com/Lo...riot+aftermath/5218849/story.html


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Jan 7, 2011  LONDON – Police fanned out across transport hubs in London on Friday amid continuing fears of a terrorist attack.
Britain's media said the security threat levels for transport hubs has been raised as governments in several European countries warn of a heightened risk of terrorism.
Police were on patrol at major hubs like St. Pancras and King's Cross train stations in what seemed to be an exercise in high visibility policing aimed at reassuring the public.
British Transport Police declined to comment on the deployment of officers, but denied a Sky News report that officers had been ordered to cancel days off.
Britain's government said the overall threat level from international terrorism remains at "severe" — the second-highest level, meaning an attack is highly likely. The level has not changed since January 2010.

Britain's Home Office said that any imminent, serious threat to public safety would prompt a change in the overall threat level — and would see it raised to "critical," the highest point on the system's five point scale.
Minor day-to-day revisions of policing are standard practice to handle a threat from terrorism that Prime Minister David Cameron said in December "is as serious today as it ever has been."

Britain's move comes after France and Germany increased security after warning of a heightened threat of terrorist attack. In October, the U.S. State Department advised American citizens living or traveling in Europe to be wary amid reports that terrorists were planning a "Mumbai-style" attack on a European city.

The next month, German authorities ordered increased security measures, including a beefed-up police presence in railway stations, airports and other public places. France also especially vigilant on terrorism-linked matters following warnings in the last few months that French citizens were targets for al-Qaida. France's terror alert status is at its second-highest level.

More than 170 people were killed in a 2008 gun attack on multiple targets in the Indian city of Mumbai.
"There is a continuing need for everyone to remain vigilant and to report any suspicious activity to the police," the Home Office said in a statement.
BAA, which runs Heathrow and five other terminals, said security at its airports remained at a high level and that the company is vigilant at all times.

The Daily Telegraph reported on its website that train stations across London were put on high alert. Quoting an unnamed security source, it said there was no imminent threat but activity from extremist cells had led to an adjustment in policing levels.

Last month, nine men suspected of plotting attacks on the U.S. Embassy London and the London Stock Exchange were charged with terrorism offenses, following the largest anti-terror raid in two years.
Britain had not seen a terror attack since the October warning, but a Dec. 11 attack in Stockholm, Sweden was linked to the U.K.
Taimour Abdulwahab, who blew himself up on a busy street in Stockholm, injuring two people, had lived and studied in Luton, about 34 miles (54 kilometers) northwest of London, for years before killed himself in the attack.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/eu_europe_terror


London Stock Exchange mulls Nasdaq takeover
March 2011
 - The London Stock Exchange is eyeing a takeover of its rival Nasdaq just weeks after announcing a merger with the Toronto stock exchange, the Sunday Times reported.
The companies have not held talks, but plan to make their move for a three-way tie-up later this year, the newspaper said without citing sources.
Last month, the LSE agreed to merge with TMX Group, operator of the Toronto Stock Exchange, in a 3.1 billion pound ($5 billion) deal.
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New disturbances in London a night after rioting
Aug 2011
 LONDON (AP) — Police deployed extra officers on London's streets to prevent a repeat of the rioting and looting in a deprived area amid community anger over a fatal police shooting, as new disturbances broke out in another district of the city late Sunday.

A peaceful protest against the killing of the 29-year-old man in north London's Tottenham area degenerated into a Saturday night rampage, with rioters torching a double-decker bus, destroying patrol cars and trashing a shopping mall in the nearby Wood Green district.

Disturbances broke out late Sunday in Enfield, about 5 miles (8 kilometers) north of Tottenham. TV footage showed riot and mounted police patrolling the streets, and there were also images of smashed shop windows, and police with dogs detaining at least one man.
There were also reports that a police car was vandalized in Enfield. Sky News television reported that several hundred young people were on the streets causing trouble.

"We do have extra resources out tonight on duty across the capital," police commander Christine Jones said. "We are carefully monitoring any intelligence and ensuring we have our resources in the right places. No one wants to see a repeat of the scenes that we witnessed last night in Tottenham."

In Saturday's violence, several buildings were set ablaze. TV footage showed the double-decker bus in a fireball and mounted police charging through the streets trying to restore order. Police said 26 officers received injuries, most if not all apparently minor, and made 55 arrests, including four Sunday. The majority of arrests were for burglary; other offenses included violent disorder, robbery, theft and handling of stolen goods.
London's fire department said it dealt with 49 "primary" fires in Tottenham. No firefighters were injured.

Social networking websites swirled with rumors of other riots beginning or being planned in other areas of the city, but police warned the public not to trust everything they saw on the Internet — adding that officers were keeping a close eye on what was being said online as well.

The violence has cast a pall over a city preparing to host the 2012 Olympic Games.
"I hope people will have a fantastic Olympics no matter what happened last night," London Mayor Boris Johnson said in a telephone interview with BBC television, trying to assure the world his city was safe.

Others weren't so sure, suggesting that the riots had exposed incipient tensions at a time of sharp public sector cutbacks and economic uncertainty.
"This is just a glimpse into the abyss," former Metropolitan Police Commander John O'Connor told Sky News. "Someone's pulled the clock back and you can look and see what's beneath the surface. And what with the Olympic Games coming up, this doesn't bode very well for London."

The protest against the death of Mark Duggan, a father of four who was gunned down in disputed circumstances Thursday, was initially peaceful. But it got ugly as between 300 and 500 people gathered around Tottenham's police station. Some protesters filled bottles with gasoline to throw at police lines, others confronted officers with makeshift weapons — including baseball bats and bars — and attempted to storm the station.

Within hours, police in riot gear and on horseback were clashing with hundreds of rioters, fires were raging out of control, and looters combed the area. One video posted to the Guardian newspaper's website showed looting even carried on into the following day, with people even lining up to steal from one store just after dawn.

The devastated area smoldered Sunday — in Tottenham, streets were littered with bricks and lined with overturned scorched trash cans. Two police helicopters hovered over the burnt-out buildings as residents inspected the damage and firefighters doused the last of the flames. Glaziers were busy replacing the smashed windows of looted shops.

Very few details of Duggan's death have been released, although police said initially that an officer was briefly hospitalized after the shooting — suggesting there was some kind of an exchange of fire. Media reports said a bullet had been found lodged in the officer's police radio.

The Independent Police Complaints Commission, which is investigating Duggan's shooting, provided more details in a statement Sunday night, saying a "non-police firearm" was recovered at the scene. It added that the weapon and a police radio "have been sent for forensic testing."

Duggan's family rejected any suggestion that he had fired at officers. His brother, Shaun Hall, said his sibling would never attack police.
"That's ridiculous," he told Sky News television. As for the rioting, he condemned it.
"There was a domino effect, which we don't condone at all," he said.

Local lawmaker David Lammy, speaking to residents from behind police tape earlier in the day, said that Duggan's shooting "raised huge questions and we need answers," but he warned against renewed violence.
"The response to that is not to loot and rob," he said. "This must stop."

Tottenham has a history of unrest. It was the site of the 1985 Broadwater Farm riots, a series of clashes that led to the savaging stabbing of a police officer and the wounding of nearly 60 others — brutally underscoring tensions between London's police and the capital's black community.
Relations have improved since, but mistrust still lingers.
http://news.yahoo.com/disturbances-london-night-rioting-210001976.html


Police Brutality Protest Turns Violent In London
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London riots
8 August 2011
Police have condemned a wave of "copycat criminal activity" across London in a second night of looting and disorder following riots in Tottenham.
More than 100 people have been arrested as officers were attacked, police vehicles damaged and shops looted.
Disorder spread to Enfield, Walthamstow and Waltham Forest in north London and to Brixton in the south of the city.
Home Secretary Teresa May has cut short her holiday to return to the UK following the disorder.

Some 35 officers have been injured over the two nights of rioting.
Three officers were hurt when a vehicle hit them as they tried to make an arrest in Waltham Forest, east London.

Clashes broke out in Enfield, north London, on Sunday evening where shop windows were smashed and a police car damaged.
There have been reports of a gang of up to 200 youths looting shops and charging police in Coldharbour Lane and the High Street in Brixton, south London.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14439970



England  *  Fires in Prison
January 1, 2011
-  Specialist prison officers wearing riot gear have been sent to an open prison in the south of England after inmates went on the rampage and started fires.
The riot began at around midnight in West Sussex, .
It involved around 40 prisoners who smashed furniture and windows, activating fire alarms, before setting several buildings alight.
The gym block and two side buildings appear to have been severely damaged.    
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Article/201009115876166


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Further riots in London as violence spreads across England
Anarchists have taken advantage of one initially peaceful protest to escalate it all over UK.
9 August 2011


RIOTS LIVE
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14449675

Trevor Reeves said his business which has been in his family for five generations has been "completely trashed"
Rioting has spread across London on a third night of violence, with unrest flaring in other English cities.
An extra 1,700 police officers were deployed in London, where shops were looted and buildings were set alight.
Birmingham, Liverpool, Nottingham and Bristol also saw violence.

The prime minister has returned early from his holiday to discuss the unrest, which first flared on Saturday after a peaceful protest in Tottenham over the fatal shooting of a man by police.
At least 400 people have been arrested following a wave of "copycat criminal activity" across London over the past three days, the Met Police said. More than 69 people have been charged with various offences.
Three people are being questioned on suspicion of attempted murder after a police officer was injured by a car in Wembley, north-west London, while trying to stop suspected looters.

Met Deputy Assistant Commissioner Steven Kavanagh said it was a "shocking and appalling morning for London to wake up to".
"The Met was stretched beyond belief in a way that it has never experienced before," he told BBC Breakfast.
When asked at what stage he would consider bringing in the Army, he responded by saying "all options are being considered".
On Twitter, Scotland Yard said: "In the next 24 hours there will be 13,000 police officers on duty in London."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14450248


London riots - this is NOT the best news source
Police warn they could use plastic bullets to quell riots tonight as Cameron orders 16,000 officers to regain control of the capital

   Prime Minister David Cameron recalls Parliament on Thursday as Government tries to quell uprising
   Plastic bullets could be used for the first time in Britain in riots tonight
   'Unprecedented' 16,000 police on duty in London - compared with just 6,000 last night
   Man, 26, shot in Croydon last night dies in hospital
   Man, aged in his 60s, critically ill after clashing with rioters in Ealing
   England game against Netherlands at Wembley tomorrow called OFF
   400% surge in 999 calls on night of violence with 20,800 dialling the emergency services in London
   Cost of clean-up expected to run into 'tens of millions'
   Metropolitan Police use armoured vehicles to push back 150 rioters in Lavender Hill, Clapham
   'There are no plans for the Army to get involved,' says police chief
   Three arrested on suspicion of attempted murder of police officer
   525 people arrested in total and more than 100 people have been charged
   16-year-old arrested on suspicion of trying to incite riots via Facebook
   All police cells in London are now FULL
]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023874/LONDON-RIOTS-David-Cameron-returns-home-police-face-gangs-petrol-bombs.html


Are England's Riots A Sign Of Things To Come Here?
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World in crisis
Markets dive. Mobs burn London
August  10,  2011
 An air of crisis descended on the world Tuesday, Aug. 9 as markets continued to tumble steeply and in London, large parts of the city succumbed to uncontrolled violence joined by three major British cities. Far East stocks leveled out at 3 percent, Europe fell 3.5-5 percent Tuesday after Wall Street slid 5-7 percent Monday. More than $70 billion were wiped out in global trading Monday hours after US President Barack Obama said America will always be a Triple A country no matter what some agency may say.

The Bank of America took the worst punishment with a 23 percent decline in its stock. Investors did not miss the warning by a Standard & Poor executive that the US credit rating may be lowered again after its landmark downgrade from AAA to AA+.

Heads of the European Union and national leaders, with no solutions for the debt crises plaguing two major members Italy and Spain, are in a panic over the threat to the Eurozone and euro currency. Their fears are driving droves of investors across the world out of the markets in the hope of safe landings in gold (which shot up to $1.721 the ounce), the Japanese yen and the Swiss franc.

Some government spokesmen and pundits are blaming speculators for the crash, praising investors who take the long view and hold tight. Others lay the blame squarely at the door of various governments for mishandling the 2008 economic crisis and its social fallout – witness the consequences of tight austerity measures in Greece and now the United Kingdom.

Thanks to deft footwork by its economic managers, Israel has so far escaped the worst of the backlash, but may not remain unscathed for much longer. Three alarm bells rang this week:

1. Standard & Poor applied its downgrade of America's credit rating to Israel's $6billion worth of US-backed bonds, lowing their rating from AAA to AA+.

2. The big demonstrations protesting soaring prices for housing and other essentials and demanding economic reforms to bridge the social gap - are now in their third week. Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu is skating on thin ice between expenditure for satisfying their demands and defusing a movement jeopardizing his government and keeping the economy on an even, stable keel.  
Meeting even some of those demands could quickly tip Israel over into the abyss of economically-distressed countries, with attendant mass unemployment and a declining currency.

3.  Even in the unlikely event of the government keeping the national purse sealed against social demands, Israel is short of the reserves for weathering the fallout to its economic and export industries from the crises in the US and Europe.  
Britain is now facing the sharpest edge of this dilemma with far less options.

The street violence, looting, burning, attacks on police - which erupted in the North London borough of Tottenham Saturday, Aug. 6, when a protest against the shooting by police of a local man got out of hand - has spread since with lightning speed into one London borough after another and, Monday night, to three major cities, Liverpool, Birmingham and Bristol.

Inadequate police and fire services are helpless to halt the looting and torching rampages of hooded teenagers in ethnically mixed and disadvantaged communities - even after 450 arrests. Owners of businesses and homes are forced to watch their properties burn down with no police or firemen in sight.
Petrol bombs and knives are out against the police. Tuesday morning, armored vehicles appeared on the streets of Ealing Broadway and Clapham Junction after every second shop was looted. Police drafted in from other places are untrained and unequal to the mob tactics of abruptly moving on to their next target which may be an upend neighborhood.

The crisis caught most of the heads of the UK government away on holiday. As the situation degenerated by the hour, Prime Minister David Cameron flew home Tuesday and called an emergency Cobra committee meeting that day. Official government and police statements until then that the violence "is unacceptable" "pure criminality" and "lawbreakers will face the consequences "have made matters worse.

British authorities are criticized widely for being too soft with the mobs of mostly teenagers.
Cameron faces demands to bring in the army because the police are clearly unequal to the situation. He does not have the option of loosening up on the austerity measures which have reduced the average living standards by 25 percent and responding to real hardship in order to defuse the disturbances. The UK is in the verge of bankruptcy, financial institutions are in flight from the City of London, further deepening the crisis. Riots across the country will further deter investors.
Standard & Poor indicated Monday that some European countries may be headed for debt downgrades after the United States – with Britain in line.
http://debka.com/article/21191

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The face of terrorism
August 09, 2011
People who characterize the tea-party movement as terrorists are clearly incapable of rationally processing information.
They don't know right from wrong.

They have no appreciation for American history and constitutional guarantees of our freedoms.
They don't recognize that when tea-party groups get together, they clean up after themselves.
They don't burn, loot, commit arson, rape or murder.
Yet, people like Vice President Joe Biden (the true terrorist) call the tea-party terrorists.

Do you want to see the face of terrorism today?
Just look to Philadelphia or to London.  That's terrorism.
The classic quote from a rioter on the street in London was this:
"We hear people were getting stuff free, so why not us?"

You will notice that tea-party activists don't have a sense of entitlement. They don't ask for free stuff. They don't demand handouts.
They don't ask that government take care of them. They just ask that government follow the rule of law and act responsibly.

The rioters (anarchists) in the streets of London and Philadelphia have a sense of entitlement.
They believe they have the right to rob and beat other people and take what they want.
They believe in burning and terrorizing and attacking police and civilians.

But no one calls them terrorists.  Have you noticed that?
No one has called the perpetrators of these acts of violence the terrorists they are.

When you demonize the hard-working, productive middle class who organize peacefully and call for reforms,
you are inviting the shiftless, unproductive class to take the opposite approach.
I think what we're seeing in London and Philadelphia is just the beginning.
Government officials have set the stage for this kind of behavior.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=331717

Black on white violence is escalating in USA also.
For no reason whatsoever at fairs, eaterys, etc, black gangs attack, beat whites.


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Youths Offered Money To Start Riots
       
Wednesday, August 10, 2011    Paul Joseph Watson
Violence in Leicester after “journalists” tried to pay off kids, according to Tweets.
As massive unrest plaguing the United Kingdom spread from London to other cities last night, claims emerged that individuals calling themselves journalists were offering to pay youths to start riots, suggesting an effort to provocateur some of the violence.

According to Tweets sent by people who were in the city of Leicester last night trying to secure their communities, kids were being told to cause mayhem in return for cash. Leicester was hit by violence later that night, as youths attacked buildings in the city center.

“There were swarms of hooded Asian, black and white youths in their 20s, and some as young as 12, being hounded out of Leicester city centre at around midnight,” nightclub owner James ****erill told the BBC.

In a message that was forwarded to Leicestershire police, a Twitter user called “leicestertalk” wrote, “AadamSparkzz & his mates just offered money by these journos to start a riot in #Leicester.”

“****heads that tried to offer us money for starting a riot in #Leicester,” said another Tweet, which included an accompanying picture of a blue car parked on the curb with its occupants standing nearby on the street.
“The media have sunk to a new low – bribing kids to start a riot. Reliable testimony that this just happened in #Leicester,” Tweeted another.

Judging by the Tweets, the men in the vehicle obviously told the kids they were journalists. The vehicle’s license plate reveals that the car is a Volkswagen Passat Se Tdi (4 Door Saloon). However, the vehicle may have no connection to the men in the picture.

Forum posters speculated last night that the journalist claim could have just been a cover for who the men seen in the image were really working for. However, it is important to stress that the claim that the occupants were offering kids money to start riots is nothing more than an allegation at this point.

Hiring provocateurs or using undercover police officers to start riots has become a routine method for justifying brutal crackdowns, although the tactic is primarily used at global summits.

We have documented numerous instances from the UK to Canada to the United States, where authorities have either used black bloc anarchists to generate violence or simply relied on their own undercover police posing as troublemakers to provoke mayhem.
http://www.infowars.com/claim-youths-offered-money-to-start-riots/
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Facial recognition in use after riots
Aug 2011
Facial recognition technology being considered for London's 2012 Games is getting a workout in the wake of Britain's riots, with officers feeding photographs of suspects through Scotland Yard's newly updated face-matching program.
A law enforcement official tells The Associated Press that facial recognition is one of many tools police are using to hunt suspects still at large. Other techniques include posting headshots to photo-sharing site Flickr and old-fashioned public appeals.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak about an ongoing investigation.
A spokesman for Scotland Yard confirmed Thursday that facial recognition technology was at his force's disposal.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stor...SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/...lied-murdered-man-open-fire-52881
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The big picture of the London riots
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